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Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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post #8

Until Brexit the UK will have to deal with GDPR. Things are gonna get interesting. grabs popcorn

The UK intends to continue with GDPR post-Brexit

But not with that pesky so-called "Charter of Fundamental Rights" that keeps forcing them to slightly update their mass surveillance laws every couple of years, as they're ruled invalid...again, and again.

It's why the cons have intended to switch to UK's own "Bill of Rights" since Cameron.

Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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I don't know if these phone boxes will last for long, there have been plenty of efforts to repurpose them for free wifi, maps, local council services and so on but these experiments never last for that long.

The fundamental problem is the guy with the iPhone X has a contract for lots of 4G bandwidth and would prefer to just use that except for at home/work when the wifi gets used.

So you are left with customers for the service that have pay as you go SIM only contracts for an old iPhone 4S.

Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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Sorry, but can somebody give a full explanation why is it so bad? And if you want want you can just not to use this kiosks, right?

Good question. Many people really don't like the incredible amount of cultural and political influence that these large multinational corporations are obtaining through data collection and analytics. This is just another example of corporate influence extending further into aspects of society that were formerly handled by the government.

Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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Sorry, but can somebody give a full explanation why is it so bad? And if you want want you can just not to use this kiosks, right?

Since someone already explained, would you mind explaining why the part about data in the article didn't strike you as bad in the first place?

Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possible on Android and without root?

As of iOS 8 and Android 5.0 the operating systems should do it automatically.

  researchers found that "the overwhelming majority of
  Android devices are not implementing the available
  randomization capabilities built into the Android OS,"
  which makes such Android devices trivial to track.
  [...]
  Apple, meanwhile, introduced MAC address randomization in
  iOS 8, only to break it in iOS 10. [...] its network probe
  broadcasts to include a distinct Information Element (IE),
  data added to Wi-Fi management frames to extend the Wi-Fi
  protocol.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/10/mac_address_randomi...

Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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post #8

Until Brexit the UK will have to deal with GDPR. Things are gonna get interesting. grabs popcorn

The UK intends to continue with GDPR post-Brexit

The UK is required to continue with GDPR post-Brexit for EU Citizens

Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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post #12
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK intends to continue with GDPR post-Brexit

But not with that pesky so-called "Charter of Fundamental Rights" that keeps forcing them to slightly update their mass surveillance laws every couple of years, as they're ruled invalid...again, and again. It's why the cons have intended to switch to UK's own "Bill of Rights" since Cameron.

In fairness, keeping the Charter as-is doesn't make a huge amount of sense given how tied it is to Citizens of The Union/Member States/Union law (e.g. A15, and most of Title V - http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:120...). Even if you enshrined it into UK law, large parts would cease to apply anyway (e.g. anything that grants rights to "Every citizen of the Union" or begins "The Union recognises").

More concerning would be a withdrawal from the ECHR, which focuses on fundamental human rights per se, not fundamental rights arising out of EU membership.

Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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Sorry, but can somebody give a full explanation why is it so bad? And if you want want you can just not to use this kiosks, right?

In theory, yes, but I would question how many users realise that using the service consents to being tracked across the city.

Re: Stop replacing London’s phone boxes with corporate surveillance

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post #12
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UK intends to continue with GDPR post-Brexit

But not with that pesky so-called "Charter of Fundamental Rights" that keeps forcing them to slightly update their mass surveillance laws every couple of years, as they're ruled invalid...again, and again. It's why the cons have intended to switch to UK's own "Bill of Rights" since Cameron.

But was it really Cameron pushing it, or Theresa May in her previous capacity as Home Secretary?

The position of Home Secretary has a way of dehumanizing everyone who does it for a significant length of time. That is perhaps understandable and unsurprising if you look at what the job involves: they reportedly spend many hours every day reviewing files about the worst of our society and requests by the police and other services for authority to do various things with those people that they aren't otherwise legally allowed to do. That's probably enough to turn almost anyone into an authoritarian, and sure enough, it is often current or former Home Secretaries who are the ones proposing draconian, one-sided measures that tip the power balance far towards the government at the expense of freedom and civil liberties.

We're in an unusual situation at the moment, because for the first time in as long as I can remember, our current Prime Minister is also a former Home Secretary. Given her weak position generally and the poisoned chalice of Brexit that she was handed when she took over, it's not a big surprise that she continues to support these kinds of authoritarian measures, and those who want to keep her in power fall in behind.

Whether that support will be as strong when May goes is an interesting question. Many of our political leaders, including a lot of MPs from both of the two biggest parties, have quite authoritarian attitudes anyway. But there are also some from those parties, and more in the smaller parties, who do seem to value civil liberties more highly. Some of the more authoritarian proposals of recent years have ultimately been defeated or even wound back after coming into effect (ID cards, various things about DNA records...) so we may yet see a more balanced approach after Brexit if May has gone at that point.

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