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YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

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Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#11
Hi Paul,

My current company (thehotlist.com) has been working on what you asked in these two paragraphs for two years.

"Facebook began by testing Instant Personalization with a handful of popular existing sites. But the interesting question for us is: what new things could be built using it that couldn't even have existed before? What new things could you do if you already knew users and their friends the moment they arrived?

One obvious advantage is that it will decrease the friction of trying something new. That will make it easier to launch dramatically novel things. The problem with dramatic innovations is that users often don't understand what you've made till they try it. Now you'll just be able to show them."

Would you like to give me some feedback if you visited thehotlist.com?

And if anyone visits thehotlist.com and has questions to ask me about the experience in using Facebook as main data source, feel free to ask me.

Eugene Jen

Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#13
It seems like the real challenge here is coming up with interesting and useful applications of this that also don't feel like 'Instant Creepoutification'. Weren't there Amazon badges/buttons on third party sites that included your name, some years ago? They seem to have gone out of style, maybe due to their inherent creepiness?

Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#14

Hi Paul, My current company (thehotlist.com) has been working on what you asked in these two paragraphs for two years. "Facebook began by testing Instant Personalization with a handful of popular existing sites. But the interesting question for us is: what new things could be built using it that couldn't even have existed before? What new things could you do if you already knew users and their friends the moment they…

You might want to submit a separate Ask HN post to review your site and post the link in this thread.

Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#15
post #13

It seems like the real challenge here is coming up with interesting and useful applications of this that also don't feel like 'Instant Creepoutification'. Weren't there Amazon badges/buttons on third party sites that included your name, some years ago? They seem to have gone out of style, maybe due to their inherent creepiness?

It's only creepy if the personalization is tacked on and out of place. If integration were done in a meaningful manner, for example if you were on a site and you wished you could see the site in the context of your social circle, then such integration probably wouldn't be creepy. It would done in such a way where the integration is part of the core value offer.

But say I'm reading an article and it says "your mother likes this too," well to me it doesn't add much to the site. So what's left is the creepy factor naked and exposed. I guess that's why there's the RFS: so we can find more useful integration of facebook. But as soon as it's useful no one will think creepy. Creepy is the ugly girl who stares at you, but the pretty one who does it isn't.

Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#16
post #2

I'm wondering if Facebook will allow for an Instant Personalization partner to ask the user to opt-in before accessing the data. I love the idea of making things more fluid for those who want it, but I worry that this is the type of service that will alienate as many as it will endear.

You could be right about that, you could also be wrong. Do an A/B test and you will know.

Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#17
post #13

It seems like the real challenge here is coming up with interesting and useful applications of this that also don't feel like 'Instant Creepoutification'. Weren't there Amazon badges/buttons on third party sites that included your name, some years ago? They seem to have gone out of style, maybe due to their inherent creepiness?

It's only creepy if the personalization is tacked on and out of place. If integration were done in a meaningful manner, for example if you were on a site and you wished you could see the site in the context of your social circle, then such integration probably wouldn't be creepy. It would done in such a way where the integration is part of the core value offer. But say I'm reading an article and it says "your mother…

It's only creepy if the personalization is tacked on and out of place.

I'm not sure it's just that. A big factor in the creepy feeling is the unexpectedness. You don't, generally, expect most websites to know who you are and what your social circle is. And if they are, unexpectedly, it feels creepy. I understand that Facebook's idea is 'one day, it will be so common, it won't be creepy'. They may well be right but it seems like a tremendously high hurdle to overcome, to me.

Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#18

Hi Paul, My current company (thehotlist.com) has been working on what you asked in these two paragraphs for two years. "Facebook began by testing Instant Personalization with a handful of popular existing sites. But the interesting question for us is: what new things could be built using it that couldn't even have existed before? What new things could you do if you already knew users and their friends the moment they…

I'm not pg but I don't really understand this website. What does it do? I signed in and saw a map of my location. Tried to change my location, but no luck.

The name sounds like it's a list of something that's currently hot/cool or something like that, but it seems like a check-in thing (according to the interface)

Also, the font you are using in cufon doesn't have any foreign characters, so my name is displayed as:

Arnr Heiar Sigursson

when in fact it is:

Arnór Heiðar Sigurðsson

Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#19
We do a real-time communication and relationship management (CRM) software and currently thinking of this RFS but would like to hear some feedback first.

First - our system lets businesses to invite their customers and prospects to the joint workspace (target customers are B2B companies. Facebook-like system - see screenshots here: http://blog.smartupz.com/2010/08/summary-of-key-elements-of-... ).

If the sales cycle is longer you have a lot of email chaos (both on sales team end and customer team end) and we help those teams to avoid that, build stronger relationship and maintain their own business social network. We also automatically track sales cycle progress based on the communication that is going on in the system.

And yes - we are using this right now and people prefer this to an email. It really works (because every action you make in the system sends an email notification it's not really such a huge workflow change).

Anyway - we see that Instant Personalization could improve shared customer workspace a lot: - customer could see "social proof" - who else in his social network did business with that company? And instantly ask for the reference. - auto avatar and contact info - Sales team could have instant info on what current customer likes (i.e. food, hobby etc.). This is a bit creepy but could speed up the sales cycle.

What do you think?

Re: YCRFS 7: Applications of Facebook Instant Personalization

#20
Somehow I had been hoping that that kind of thing would become part of the browsers, giving me more control over the kind of data to give away. Isn't Mozilla working on something like that?

Still, of course everything has to live in the cloud, in case I switch my computer. So I guess Facebook simply took that market...

I wonder what would be a good way to give people their own private cloud? Perhaps CouchDB?

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