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Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by RobinL »

diggan wrote: post #7

Maybe my understanding of "Reinvent the wheel" is wrong, but I always took it as "spend time inventing something that already exists", basically wasting your time. Didn't think it was a positive term you want to put on your landing page.

I see what you mean. I suppose what they're going for is 'this product is so revolutionary that it's equivalent to someone inventing a replacement for the wheel'.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by wyldfire »

Indeed, it's massive and expensive. But this probably falls in line with some of the floor space/capital budget of the earliest plotters or copier/scanner/printers.

So maybe in ten years every office will have one.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by Aardwolf »

Question totally off topic, related to writing rather than 3D printing!

They call it not just the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printer", but the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printing Solution"

When I myself would be the target audience, "3D printer" sells better than "3D printing solution" I think.

Do you know what the true target audience they are writing for is, and if it really genuinely is so that there are such audiences where adding words like "Solution" helps the sell? Can you please elaborate on that and give intuition why?

Same applies for some other such words, like adding "Technology" to something that is more like a specification, and of course "Enterprise".

Thanks! :D

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by haikuginger »

Aardwolf wrote: post #13

Question totally off topic, related to writing rather than 3D printing! They call it not just the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printer", but the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printing Solution" When I myself would be the target audience, "3D printer" sells better than "3D printing solution" I think. Do you know what the true target audience they are writing for is, and if it really genuinely is so that there are such au…

To help with the perspective, the fine print states that they were making comparisons to comparable products that cost between $100,000 and $450,000.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by timdorr »

mihular wrote: post #5

Starting at $130,000 no less. I'll stick with my prusa MK2 for a little bit longer.

They also have ~1500x the build volume (15,643,840 cm3 vs 10500 cm3), so 144x the cost is possibly warranted. They are two totally different classes of machine.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by Justin_K »

Aardwolf wrote: post #13

Question totally off topic, related to writing rather than 3D printing! They call it not just the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printer", but the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printing Solution" When I myself would be the target audience, "3D printer" sells better than "3D printing solution" I think. Do you know what the true target audience they are writing for is, and if it really genuinely is so that there are such au…

Probably includes software or more than just a "printer".

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by RobinL »

grenoire wrote: post #2

Good Lord, these things are humongous. Not your average hobbyist printer for sure.

In the long run I hope that the model for this kind of thing will be 'printing as a service', much like how historically you went to a shop to get photos developed. It'd be amazing to be able to upload a design and pick it up/get it delivered next day, for the 'commodity cost' of the printing.

Re: 3D Color Print

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Post by jdietrich »

Aardwolf wrote: post #13

Question totally off topic, related to writing rather than 3D printing! They call it not just the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printer", but the "HP Jet Fusion 580 Color 3D Printing Solution" When I myself would be the target audience, "3D printer" sells better than "3D printing solution" I think. Do you know what the true target audience they are writing for is, and if it really genuinely is so that there are such au…

>Do you know what the true target audience they are writing for is, and if it really genuinely is so that there are such audiences where adding words like "Solution" helps the sell? Can you please elaborate on that and give intuition why?

They're selling to product design studios. HP aren't selling a 3D printer, they're selling a solution for making 3D prints. The word "solution" matters, because 3D printers have a reputation for being janky as hell. You'll pay a premium for the printer and the consumables, but the promise is that you won't have to dick about for days to get a decent print.

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