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Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

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Re: Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

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“It’s a signal to the market of what those who have scrutinized the situation already believe: There is a problem here,” said Jill Carlson, a former trader at Goldman Sachs who now consults with a variety of virtual currency companies. “The dissolution of a relationship between an auditor and a company is very rarely a good sign that the company is behaving in accordance with market best practices.” When you're getti…

That or they're jealous.

Re: Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

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It looks, on the surface, to be a sort of massive fraud on the issuance of tether, which also propped up the price of Bitcoin and a lot of other coins, as a couple of billion in fake liquidity was pumped into the market.

It's too early to tell what the exact story is, but it's certainly the case that the tether company's promises that they get frequent, professional audits are an out-and-out lie. I, personally, don't believe they have billions of dollars in the bank to back up their tokens, either.

Various authorities are starting to take interest, as are more mainstream media sources (like the NY Times).

I think if Tether and Bitfinex are above board, now is the time to release a statement and some pretty compelling evidence.

Re: Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

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What’s the difference between legitimate technical trading and propping up a market? Is it just volume?

My understanding from the article is that the problem isn't that the price was propped but that they created fake tether to do so.

By fake, I don't mean the tether wasn't real, but that it was not tied to dollars.

So they claimed tether was tied to dollars but they produced a lot of it to buy up Bitcoin and the fear is that they didn't wait for dollars to come in but just made the tether out of... well, ether ... and used that to prop up bitcoin which they converted into actual wealth.

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“It’s a signal to the market of what those who have scrutinized the situation already believe: There is a problem here,” said Jill Carlson, a former trader at Goldman Sachs who now consults with a variety of virtual currency companies. “The dissolution of a relationship between an auditor and a company is very rarely a good sign that the company is behaving in accordance with market best practices.” When you're getti…

I agree with your sentiment but come on. It's not like there are instances where GS would say "this seems slightly unethical, but so are we". You're implying they ever admit wrongdoing.

Respectfully, it's a comment in jest not deserving of such logical scrutiny.

Re: Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

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If you haven't already, I recommend getting out of Bitcoin and into Ethereum immediately. There is a transfer of dominance rapidly happening. Market Cap Bitcoin $158,149,902,894 Ethereum $106,632,442,880

What mechanisms in Ethereum protect it from this sort of market manipulation?

Re: Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

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If you haven't already, I recommend getting out of Bitcoin and into Ethereum immediately. There is a transfer of dominance rapidly happening. Market Cap Bitcoin $158,149,902,894 Ethereum $106,632,442,880

what is in your opinion the reason why bitcoin is failing? For the way I see it, it's because it lacks real world applications and value. I know Ethereum has it's own contracts etc... but I don't see how it really solves the base problem. Who's going to use this currency and why? Are the contracts enough to keep it afloat forever? From what i've heard they are not without issues.

Re: Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

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If you haven't already, I recommend getting out of Bitcoin and into Ethereum immediately. There is a transfer of dominance rapidly happening. Market Cap Bitcoin $158,149,902,894 Ethereum $106,632,442,880

Does Ethereum has any immunity from pump-and-dump and other market manipulation schemes compared to Bitcoin or your comment has nothing to do with the subject?

Re: Worries Grow That the Price of Bitcoin Is Being Propped Up

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If you haven't already, I recommend getting out of Bitcoin and into Ethereum immediately. There is a transfer of dominance rapidly happening. Market Cap Bitcoin $158,149,902,894 Ethereum $106,632,442,880

When BTC crashes, so will ETH. Get out entirely.
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