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Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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i think many orgs instead of suing google n such orgs if they simply use that money to invest in good organizations which are open and respect an individuals privacy that ll lead to a better world. it is not the law that is going to protect the people it is money in the good people's hand that is going to take us in a positive future. doing one good to cover up 18 other bad things is not considered good.

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Yes! Disable 3rd party cookies, delete your Google & Facebook accounts, and done. Easy peasy.

I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. I launch gmail in a site-specific browser process so that my login is isolated. This makes it so that in my main browser, I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go. As a bonus, the "filter bubble" effect is diminished for my Google searches. That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience.

Though they actively scan your email for targeted ads and correlate them to you outside of your jail through GA, which doesn't really require login. Unless you connect through a different VPN and browser/etc.

Seriously though - who cares? You use a credit or card? Your purchase history has been sold to advertisers and similar for decades, it's just more transparent now.

OP here is simply fomenting mistrust of the more obvious players to draw traffic (and advertising bucks) to their own website (duckduckgo).

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Yes! Disable 3rd party cookies, delete your Google & Facebook accounts, and done. Easy peasy.

I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. I launch gmail in a site-specific browser process so that my login is isolated. This makes it so that in my main browser, I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go. As a bonus, the "filter bubble" effect is diminished for my Google searches. That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience.

Slowly moving away from google what my personal email concerns - to protonmail, btw; I do use G+ as an excuse for social media, though, mostly for being able to stalk Linus on his scuba diving trips.

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Yes! Disable 3rd party cookies, delete your Google & Facebook accounts, and done. Easy peasy.

I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. I launch gmail in a site-specific browser process so that my login is isolated. This makes it so that in my main browser, I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go. As a bonus, the "filter bubble" effect is diminished for my Google searches. That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience.

I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go.

If they see activity from one IP to say search, then activity from the same IP to visit the top result of that search, they don’t need a cookie to track you.

Anyone who shares an IP has seen ads actually targeting another member of their household...

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. I launch gmail in a site-specific browser process so that my login is isolated. This makes it so that in my main browser, I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go. As a bonus, the "filter bubble" effect is diminished for my Google searches. That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience.

> I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. Well, that's your choice, isn't it? > That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience. Non-techies can just go the good ol' way and pay for an ad-free, tracking-free email service, mapping service, storage service, etc.

I’m not a google fan, but can you name one free service that is par? I think many people would en pay if there was an alternative

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Yes! Disable 3rd party cookies, delete your Google & Facebook accounts, and done. Easy peasy.

I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. I launch gmail in a site-specific browser process so that my login is isolated. This makes it so that in my main browser, I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go. As a bonus, the "filter bubble" effect is diminished for my Google searches. That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience.

I think you're overestimating the privacy benefits afforded by using two browsers. Both browsers are using the same IP address which means that google can identify you in the other browser with high certainty. I also have two browsers and use only one to log into google. Yet, google firmly places me in my filter bubble even in the other browser.

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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"Google says it has access to roughly 70% of U.S. credit and debit card transactions through partnerships with companies that track that data." "Google DeepMind's first deal with the NHS [...] gave the Google-owned artificial intelligence (AI) lab access to 1.6 million NHS patient records across three North London hospitals without patient's prior knowledge." "Google starts tracking offline shopping" Sure. Deleting t…

Oh, none of those are exclusive or even new. Your credit rating company has far more info on you that you didn't sign up for. And AFAIK, and from what I heard from friends working at google, everything is linked to a google gaia account, if you don't have one, you don't exist for them. Have you deleted your Google and Fb account yet?

Your credit rating company has far more info

They’re tracking my location and correlating that, ads seen, spending patterns, web activity, who I associate with, and all the rest?

I call shenanigans.

if you don't have one, you don't exist for them

Except as a shadow profile.

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Yes! Disable 3rd party cookies, delete your Google & Facebook accounts, and done. Easy peasy.

I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. I launch gmail in a site-specific browser process so that my login is isolated. This makes it so that in my main browser, I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go. As a bonus, the "filter bubble" effect is diminished for my Google searches. That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience.

Maybe I am missing something here, but how does this help against being tracked by google through google analytics and/or their ad-network?

Sure they cannot 1:1 link your {analytics, ad} identity to your actual Google identity, but I am reasonably sure that they have all the data necessary to do it via (not too many) connecting dots.

Re: Google and Facebook are watching our every move online

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Yes! Disable 3rd party cookies, delete your Google & Facebook accounts, and done. Easy peasy.

I use gmail and don't wish to give it up for now. I launch gmail in a site-specific browser process so that my login is isolated. This makes it so that in my main browser, I'm not logged into my Google account and they don't see where I go. As a bonus, the "filter bubble" effect is diminished for my Google searches. That's not a reasonable approach for non-techies, but I thought it might interest the HN audience.

I launch Google in it's own Firefox container. Thank you Mozilla.
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