But but they have a ping pong table and infinite vacay!
What exactly is Full Stack these days?
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Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#12I see nothing here that an inept individual with a 4 year degree and an attuned interest in the industry couldn't achieve within 10 years. Much less if they are motivated and establish healthy habits. I don't see bullet-proof or laser vision on the list. Besides, wouldn't you want to know all of this? The bigger your tool set, the better your development.
But they'd need to also be read tea leaves and predict that there will be this job ad back in 2008, so they can spend 10 years fine tuning their career and tech choice of stacks to suit this ad, imposing CV-driven development as collateral damage at every company they have worked for.
... Or they could have purchased 1000 bitcoins for $10. :-)
Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#13I fail to see the issue with this post. Frankly, if you are learning and willing to try new technologies across areas of the web dev stack you should have a grasp on 80% of these things at least (I didn't say expertise).
What I am more surprised by is the unwillingness by many - indicated in the comments - to explore things outside their domain.
Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#14Is that the job description for senior level+? It honestly doesn't sound unreasonable to assume a senior+ engineer to have experience with all of these technologies in this day and age. Software development tools have come a long way in the past decade and it's become possible for a generalist full stack dev to learn about and use every part of this (not having to be an expert in any, of course).
I'd say the more problematic part of hiring is in the interview stage, where inevitably you'll be asked questions around binary search trees, merge sorts, and the like. (Admittedly, I am also guilty of using such interview questions myself in the past as an interviewer.) I find that it's actually more reasonable to expect knowledge and working experience with all the tech tools you listed, than actually asking about inverting a binary search tree. I don't have good answers for what one should ask instead.
Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#15What do you expect from a job these days?
"Has skills in a single area"?
To be honest, it's not that hard to gain a bit of familiarity with all this tech.
Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#16That is an hilarious list of expectations. It's akin to announcing they have an concept for a product and no idea how to make it so you'll have to know and do everything that might possibly be needed to accomplish it from start to finish including the patience to address their every whim along the way. They don't say how long they'll give you to make it but I'd bet they'll expect it ready to ship in a few weeks or a…
I just envision this drag and drop idyllic list where recruiters/HR say to themselves "sure, why not A, B,C... and P, Q, R S T languages"
Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#17Lol idk if you’ve been doing this stuff for 20 years you’ll have those skills ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#18I see nothing here that an inept individual with a 4 year degree and an attuned interest in the industry couldn't achieve within 10 years. Much less if they are motivated and establish healthy habits. I don't see bullet-proof or laser vision on the list. Besides, wouldn't you want to know all of this? The bigger your tool set, the better your development.
But they'd need to also be read tea leaves and predict that there will be this job ad back in 2008, so they can spend 10 years fine tuning their career and tech choice of stacks to suit this ad, imposing CV-driven development as collateral damage at every company they have worked for. ... Or they could have purchased 1000 bitcoins for $10. :-)
Eh it just optimizes for someone with high intellectual curiosity imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
But they'd need to also be read tea leaves and predict that there will be this job ad back in 2008, so they can spend 10 years fine tuning their career and tech choice of stacks to suit this ad, imposing CV-driven development as collateral damage at every company they have worked for. ... Or they could have purchased 1000 bitcoins for $10. :-)
Eh it just optimizes for someone with high intellectual curiosity imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I realize you did a Show HN on the shrug emoji, but please don't use it excessively on HN.
Re: What exactly is Full Stack these days?
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
But they'd need to also be read tea leaves and predict that there will be this job ad back in 2008, so they can spend 10 years fine tuning their career and tech choice of stacks to suit this ad, imposing CV-driven development as collateral damage at every company they have worked for. ... Or they could have purchased 1000 bitcoins for $10. :-)
Eh it just optimizes for someone with high intellectual curiosity imo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Imagine tech stacks are lottery balls. And they ask for 6 specific ones. What are the odds that you've picked the right balls? Unless we are talking about quantum humans that can learn all the things at the same time.