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Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

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Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#11

How is quitting going to help anything? If you're in it, at least you can try to fix it. Maybe slow things down a bit like Ron Swanson to minimize the damage they do?

If you think governments are bad you should see what the private sector is doing with your data.

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#12

I am all for locally based ISPs. It would be amazing if local municipalities could create incentives for financing the last mile of connectivity exclusively to local ISPs. I absolutely abhor the idea of government supplied Internet. I’m too cynical to believe that there is some magical force field that differentiates local government ethics from federal level ethics. If Snowden tells us our internet habits are snoope…

I think it's easy to make this mistake and to associate government == bad ethics, when it's clear that you see similar misbehavior in government AND business. The problem is size, not public vs. private. Size equals power and that is usually the heart of the problem.

Businesses are accountable to local government.

While local government is accountable in elections, I don’t think that is a reasonable stick for day to day operations.

I find your contexting my comment as a “mistake” to be arrogant to the point of almost irredeemability. Are you trying to be that obnoxious?

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#13

I am all for locally based ISPs. It would be amazing if local municipalities could create incentives for financing the last mile of connectivity exclusively to local ISPs. I absolutely abhor the idea of government supplied Internet. I’m too cynical to believe that there is some magical force field that differentiates local government ethics from federal level ethics. If Snowden tells us our internet habits are snoope…

How does that really address the problem? Or are you suggesting incentivizing multiple ISPs running cable for the last mile? There is a physical plant problem here. Why not let the gov't or a quasi-gov't utility run the last mile cable with a charter that prohibits them from shining light down it? Then let ISPs compete to over service. Kinda like we had ever so briefly after we forced telcos to offer unbundled loops.

Because government overreach is always a risk.

It is easier to throw business people in jail than it is government employees.

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#14

How is quitting going to help anything? If you're in it, at least you can try to fix it. Maybe slow things down a bit like Ron Swanson to minimize the damage they do?

Time is a finite resource. At some point it's no longer worth the opportunity cost to stay in for a minimal change in the outcome. I'm sure a mayor has more important things to do. You're also neglecting the possibility that publicly quitting and explaining why will have a bigger effect than staying in and trying to influence a rigged outcome.

How effective are most of the things mayors do?

Trying to steer the ship in a less shitty direction might be the best use of their time

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time is a finite resource. At some point it's no longer worth the opportunity cost to stay in for a minimal change in the outcome. I'm sure a mayor has more important things to do. You're also neglecting the possibility that publicly quitting and explaining why will have a bigger effect than staying in and trying to influence a rigged outcome.

How effective are most of the things mayors do? Trying to steer the ship in a less shitty direction might be the best use of their time

If you believe that a mayor's time is worthless, it makes sense to waste it in a useless committee. Apparently this mayor feels differently than you about the value of his time.

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that really address the problem? Or are you suggesting incentivizing multiple ISPs running cable for the last mile? There is a physical plant problem here. Why not let the gov't or a quasi-gov't utility run the last mile cable with a charter that prohibits them from shining light down it? Then let ISPs compete to over service. Kinda like we had ever so briefly after we forced telcos to offer unbundled loops.

Because government overreach is always a risk. It is easier to throw business people in jail than it is government employees.

Doesn't happen. Where are all these business people in the jail?

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#17
Although this probably won't get discussed much in the blogosphere, it actually bothers me more than the recent reversal of the Title II classification for ISPs, over which so many electrons were spilled. In my view, actual competition from municipal fiber would produce better outcomes than we could ever get with Net Neutrality regulation. That Pai's FCC is moving in the wrong direction on this front as well is very disheartening, albeit, alas, unsurprising.

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#18

I am all for locally based ISPs. It would be amazing if local municipalities could create incentives for financing the last mile of connectivity exclusively to local ISPs. I absolutely abhor the idea of government supplied Internet. I’m too cynical to believe that there is some magical force field that differentiates local government ethics from federal level ethics. If Snowden tells us our internet habits are snoope…

Always assume anything travelling over the internet is compromised unless its both signed and competently encrypted.

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#19

How is quitting going to help anything? If you're in it, at least you can try to fix it. Maybe slow things down a bit like Ron Swanson to minimize the damage they do?

It’s a publicity statement and an act of protest that he can list on his political resume in his next election.

Re: Mayor quits FCC committee, says it favors ISPs over the public interest

#20

How is quitting going to help anything? If you're in it, at least you can try to fix it. Maybe slow things down a bit like Ron Swanson to minimize the damage they do?

He got into the news with the message, media is over it. It worked out.

Quitting can send a clear message

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