Was that the entirety of the apartment in photos, minus the bathroom? Even by New York standards, that's pretty tiny.
In Japan, there's an industry devoted to cleaning up after people who died alone
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#12Bullshit. When I die, if all that is remembered of me are the things in my apartment, then it doesn't really matter if I was alone at the time or who cleans it up.
I'm willing to bet he made a lasting impression on somebody. Friends, coworkers, etc. If not, then having kids or someone living with him wouldn't have mattered.
I definitely get the feeling the message of this article is "make sure you have kids so you don't die alone and forgotten", which is stupid for several reasons.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
in American it's target is people who will die alone and the objective is cleaning up financially. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-the-elderl...
That's one of the most disturbing stories I've read in a while. It's unbelievable, felt like I was reading science fiction. I wonder if there are ways to protect oneself in old age from being a victim of that...
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#14> It was almost as if Hiroaki had never existed. Bullshit. When I die, if all that is remembered of me are the things in my apartment, then it doesn't really matter if I was alone at the time or who cleans it up. I'm willing to bet he made a lasting impression on somebody . Friends, coworkers, etc. If not, then having kids or someone living with him wouldn't have mattered. I definitely get the feeling the message of…
Apparently not enough of an impression to carry on the friendship, though, right?
I think the point of the article is that Japanese society has traditionally been very dependent on family and work for all of your social bonding, with much less emphasis on maintaining relationships outside of those two spheres.
If he did have kids, they would likely check up on him more than once a month. It's not guaranteed, of course, but Japanese culture does seem to put more of a weight on that than American culture.
The point of this article isn't "this is how it should be or suffer the consequences", it's "this is how it is, and this is one of the consequences".
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#16Reminds me of this documentary about Sweden. 50% of Swedes live alone, and 25% die alone. Often it takes a long time for someone to notice, as pensions come in to the account automatically, and the rent is also paid automatically. https://www.svtplay.se/video/10458343/the-swedish-theory-of-...
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
in American it's target is people who will die alone and the objective is cleaning up financially. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-the-elderl...
That's one of the most disturbing stories I've read in a while. It's unbelievable, felt like I was reading science fiction. I wonder if there are ways to protect oneself in old age from being a victim of that...
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#18Isn’t there one in America also ? Is the market significantly smaller in America ?
in American it's target is people who will die alone and the objective is cleaning up financially. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/09/how-the-elderl...