OT: Is there a reliable Firefox to block these annoying Bloomberg auto-play videos?
Mine don't play in FF. I think you can disable this via:
media.autoplay.enabled
type about:config in url and set value to false
Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
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Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#12I'm not a big fan of Elon Musk, but let's not get political. I do however, want to point out Buffalo .. its troubles with Solar City .. and its troubles with Elon Musk. Key (non-disputed / non-political points) - Tesla did not hire local workers, and did not hold up on its end for diversity of work-force - SolarCity received 750$ million in the Billion to Buffalo at a time it hadn't operated at a profit in over 2 yea…
Most of the articles that I have read regarding the Buffalo plant have been about what a mess that it has been. This feels like an aberration, and maybe a sign that things are improving a little bit?
Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#13I really love the work that Tesla is doing in this area, and wish them all the luck in the world, but if the estimates in the article are even close ($57K for a Tesla roof, $41K for a tile roof with a small solar panel, $22K for a conventional asphalt roof) it's hard for me to see this being cost effective.
I thought they were making this "competitive" with other kinds of tile roofs. Going up against asphalt shingles is pretty ambitious.
Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#14I'm not a big fan of Elon Musk, but let's not get political. I do however, want to point out Buffalo .. its troubles with Solar City .. and its troubles with Elon Musk. Key (non-disputed / non-political points) - Tesla did not hire local workers, and did not hold up on its end for diversity of work-force - SolarCity received 750$ million in the Billion to Buffalo at a time it hadn't operated at a profit in over 2 yea…
Local governments never benefit from such incentives so this case isn't notable.
Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#15I'm not a big fan of Elon Musk, but let's not get political. I do however, want to point out Buffalo .. its troubles with Solar City .. and its troubles with Elon Musk. Key (non-disputed / non-political points) - Tesla did not hire local workers, and did not hold up on its end for diversity of work-force - SolarCity received 750$ million in the Billion to Buffalo at a time it hadn't operated at a profit in over 2 yea…
> it hadn't operated at a profit in over 2 years (I believe)
And how much of that is a direct result of the fact they are competing against Chinese-made panels that are directly funded by the Chinese government?
There is literally no way you can have a discussion about ANY renewable energy without it being political. Either the US is going to protect US industry from Chinese goods being sold below-cost, or we're going to have to do the same thing to compete.
Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#16I really love the work that Tesla is doing in this area, and wish them all the luck in the world, but if the estimates in the article are even close ($57K for a Tesla roof, $41K for a tile roof with a small solar panel, $22K for a conventional asphalt roof) it's hard for me to see this being cost effective.
They're already backordered. If they lowered the price, they would be even more backordered, but have less money. We won't know what the non-early-adopter price is until a few years from now.
Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#17I really love the work that Tesla is doing in this area, and wish them all the luck in the world, but if the estimates in the article are even close ($57K for a Tesla roof, $41K for a tile roof with a small solar panel, $22K for a conventional asphalt roof) it's hard for me to see this being cost effective.
I thought you had to be wrong until I read the article. If people found solar panels garish, unsightly, this would sell like hotcakes. But just the oposite: people will put panels towards the street even when that's not the best angle or side. Like buying Prius over Honda's hybrid because the Toyota is distinctive, people want to flaunt their green.
Maybe this will appeal to people who are green-minded, but live in a conservative area and are ashamed about it.
Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#18I'm not a big fan of Elon Musk, but let's not get political. I do however, want to point out Buffalo .. its troubles with Solar City .. and its troubles with Elon Musk. Key (non-disputed / non-political points) - Tesla did not hire local workers, and did not hold up on its end for diversity of work-force - SolarCity received 750$ million in the Billion to Buffalo at a time it hadn't operated at a profit in over 2 yea…
I also live in Buffalo and would point out I agree with the sentiment. I really wish SolarCity/Tesla would hire the workers here. Talent and good skills exist here and Buffalo is only growing. Why bring ambitious projects here and then have them go bust like this? The effect on the population here would be a lot more than that of a big city where people have a lot more opportunity and don't need to hope for one big project.
Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#19I'm not a big fan of Elon Musk, but let's not get political. I do however, want to point out Buffalo .. its troubles with Solar City .. and its troubles with Elon Musk. Key (non-disputed / non-political points) - Tesla did not hire local workers, and did not hold up on its end for diversity of work-force - SolarCity received 750$ million in the Billion to Buffalo at a time it hadn't operated at a profit in over 2 yea…
Most of the articles that I have read regarding the Buffalo plant have been about what a mess that it has been. This feels like an aberration, and maybe a sign that things are improving a little bit?
I don't want to digress here, but $345 million dollars has been spent in the last 5-7 years to promote growth in our region. However, entities like 43 North (our regions YC of sorts) has failed to retain / keep new businesses that they recruit for their yearly $1million VC contest. I think all but one company has stayed here since its inception. Secondly, the dollars here have all been spent on revitalization of Main St - which if you walk the 1 block to 800 block (basically Canal Side to Theater district) - one can make the argument of gentrification (controversial on its best day).
The money / jobs / growing enthusiasm isn't reflected in a minority middle class. Bottom line, that's what I personally call success of any city trying to regain momentum. By all accounts, I am an educated, white, privileged, and successful conservative living in the suburbs.
However, I take the post-Civil War northern Republican view of reconstruction by giving the vision of today should be the vision of 1865 .. and that's equality of all minorities with their white counterparts. The death of Abe Lincoln put us back 50 - 70 years in that movement, and as Andrew Johnson favored the status quote of Southern Democrats / Aristocratic colonialism ... it bleeds into the inequities that minorities today.
I know that's long winded, but the historical throw-back .. plays out today, in cities like Buffalo .. where all I want is my black / latino / muslim communities of Buffalo to have the same equity that I have and live as well as I do. Unfortunately ... it's just not happening, despite the welfare dollar being so dominant here in New York (which I do not detest - I just want it used more strategically in regions of poverty).
Anyway .. off my soap-box.
Re: Tesla's New York Gigafactory Kicks Off Solar Roof Production
#20OT: Is there a reliable Firefox to block these annoying Bloomberg auto-play videos?
Mine don't play in FF. I think you can disable this via: media.autoplay.enabled type about:config in url and set value to false
I have this set to false and it's pretty annoying. It seems that the same triggers that make auto-play work are used to play regular video. So I always have to fiddle with Youtube to get a video to start, and Vimeo videos don't play at all. I've had to keep from using this flag in Chrome so I have a backup browser for such sites.