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Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

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Post by alphabetum » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 4:01 AM UTC

ddemchuk wrote: post #2

http://ihaterubyonrails.com/posts/34/the-perfect-framework-f... "Show me one example of a corporate or high-traffic website that uses Rails other than Basecamp." -yellowpages.com -hulu.com -shopify -kongregate -github -justin.tv -ravelry the list is actually pretty large nowadays. I don't even code with rails anymore, but this site is a big heaping pile of whiny bullshit EDIT: formatting

- kickstarter

- soundcloud

- NYTimes for election results

- funny or die

- goodreads

- crunchbase

Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

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Post by danieldon » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 4:16 AM UTC

Big surprise: it's a Python app. Yet more proof that the Python web development community is filled to the brim with trolls. Stuff like this is why I completely stopped contributing to open source Python projects after nearly 10 years.

Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

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Post by samratjp » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 4:26 AM UTC

"It's not .NET" is the problem with this site - these guys don't seem to understand that they are not the intended audience for Rails nor do they seem to know when to pick the right tool for the right job. Also, have you heard of JRuby?

Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

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Post by steveh72 » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 4:38 AM UTC

I don't usually bother to defend a particular technology choice but most of the arguments are either irrelevant, no longer true or just plain wrong.

Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

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Post by ddemchuk » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 7:42 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #7

ddemchuk wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I left twitter out because it has started departing a bit from pure Ruby on Rails and has had scaling issues from the get go so isn't a really good example when someone is bitching about the abilities of RoR.

Twitter's front-end is still Rails.

and twitter's front end still crashes multiple times a day :)

Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

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Post by brushbox » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 8:04 AM UTC

Chuckle.

That's the best they could come up with? People with more time to complain than brain cells to do it with!

Thanks for the levity. That site made this Ruby developer's day.

Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

#17

Post by sr3d » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 9:01 AM UTC

This site is irrelevant. If people get to complain about Rails, then they should be doing some programming to

1) fix it (I had 1 patch to Rails by actually found the bug in my app and fixed it, got accepted within a few days. The community is awesome)

2) learn something new instead of wasting time.

3) build something cool to make some good money and quit whining.

Rails is awesome when you actually try to build a complex app. And I'm sick of people complaining about Ruby is so slow and Rails is this or that. My thought? Whatever.

Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

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Post by wccrawford » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 11:15 AM UTC

sr3d wrote: post #17

This site is irrelevant. If people get to complain about Rails, then they should be doing some programming to 1) fix it (I had 1 patch to Rails by actually found the bug in my app and fixed it, got accepted within a few days. The community is awesome) 2) learn something new instead of wasting time. 3) build something cool to make some good money and quit whining. Rails is awesome when you actually try to build a comp…

While I agree that they should do 2 and 3, they owe nothing to anyone and don't have to fix anything. A bug report would be nice, but again, they don't have to.

I know a lot of people say that complaining isn't useful if you don't also provide a solution, but that's BS. I've often used complaints to find out what people don't like about a system and formulate a plan to improve it. And I've often received suggestions that not only wouldn't fix the problem, but would destroy the rest of the system.

Complaints should be taken with a grain of salt, but when a lot of people have the same complaint, it bears scrutiny.

If you ignore complaints that don't have suggestions, you'll never know what made people leave, either.

Re: I hate Ruby On Rails

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 17, 2010, 1:04 PM UTC

danieldon wrote: post #12

Big surprise: it's a Python app. Yet more proof that the Python web development community is filled to the brim with trolls. Stuff like this is why I completely stopped contributing to open source Python projects after nearly 10 years.

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