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Starcraft AI bot war

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Re: Starcraft AI bot war

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Post by aflag »

andreyf wrote: post #8

I was hoping someone had finally reverse engineered SC/BNet to make an AI design platform for the game. Booh. The analysis of this game is pretty empty - Protoss will always do better with more resources, because they're just a more resource-consuming race. Humans will do worse with a general AI, because smart micromanaging of terrain units is what gives them a strong advantage.

It would indeed be nice to have an easy-to-use platform for creating AI on top of Starcraft. I think that would be nice because it's a very well balanced game, which is still being played, the work of the units is very well known and human players are quite good. I think it would make an awesome research platform for game AI.

Re: Starcraft AI bot war

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Post by ArcticCelt »

andreyf wrote: post #8

I was hoping someone had finally reverse engineered SC/BNet to make an AI design platform for the game. Booh. The analysis of this game is pretty empty - Protoss will always do better with more resources, because they're just a more resource-consuming race. Humans will do worse with a general AI, because smart micromanaging of terrain units is what gives them a strong advantage.

Most of is conclusions are heavily influenced by the unlimited resources factor. It's is also normal in this scenario that the Zerg did better than the humans because they can waste their unit and just rapidly make new ones.

Re: Starcraft AI bot war

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Post by GavinB »

annoyed wrote: post #10
GavinB wrote: post #4

"You DO remember where your Starcraft disks are, don’t you?" It's like he can read my mind! They're a four hour drive from here, if I could even find them. I guess I'll have to wait for SC2.

what's the latest word on the release date?

Blizzard won't provide an estimate. You can see a nice preview at http://www.starcraft2.com/, and if you look at the FAQ it talks about release (but gives no date).

Re: Starcraft AI bot war

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Post by aflag »

rms wrote: post #14

I think this should have been run on a symmetrical map with the same number of players of each race.

It's really hard to see a completely symmetrical map that's played by people. I don't think the choice of the map was his worst fault. I think the biggest problem is that he didn't do a series of 1x1 matches. Although, by what he said, protoss should win because they'd just rush and fight each other. Or maybe not, because their armies could meet in the middle of the map or something. Anyhow he should do something like:

Terran x Terran

Terran x Zerg

Terran x Protoss

Zerg x Zerg

Zerg x Protoss

Protoss x Protoss

Re: Starcraft AI bot war

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Post by rms »

aflag wrote: post #15
rms wrote: post #14

I think this should have been run on a symmetrical map with the same number of players of each race.

It's really hard to see a completely symmetrical map that's played by people. I don't think the choice of the map was his worst fault. I think the biggest problem is that he didn't do a series of 1x1 matches. Although, by what he said, protoss should win because they'd just rush and fight each other. Or maybe not, because their armies could meet in the middle of the map or something. Anyhow he should do something lik…

An extra resources version of Blood Bath, maybe? It also eliminates the randomness of expansions.
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