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Re: Telegram plans multi-billion dollar ICO for chat cryptocurrency

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I don't understand: Wouldn't Apple just remove their app from the app once they touch payments? Someone will be bitten by compliance, and if Telegram is able to circumvent that then the bucket stops with Apple. This is what has stopped me from doing payment in my apps until now - you never know when some apple or google employee decides to smash you in the face with the ban hammer.

I suspect that once you get big enough, Apple is reluctant to touch you. Remember, Uber broken Apple's app rules, and were not banned, merely threatened[1]. If Apple removes the app, then who will people blame? The app or Apple? I suspect Telegram might be betting on that.

[1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/04/24/ubers-ka...

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What is preventing every app/service to launch their own crypto currency? It looks like in these times it is in their own interest to launch their own crypto currency than adopting an existing one as they stand to make billions. In that scenario do we say bitcoin and their ilk is failing or succeeding?

Nothing is preventing them. So expect everyone to do it.

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I fail to see why this is valuable in any way. Why would this raise even a million, let alone half a billion?

Blockchain, VR, Bitcoin, AI are the buzzwords that bring you $$$. Businesses will throw money at you just for using AI/ML, blockchain, even if these use cases can be solved with a few if/else or fuzzy logic or distributed NoSQL database.

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post #11
post #2

I don't understand: Wouldn't Apple just remove their app from the app once they touch payments? Someone will be bitten by compliance, and if Telegram is able to circumvent that then the bucket stops with Apple. This is what has stopped me from doing payment in my apps until now - you never know when some apple or google employee decides to smash you in the face with the ban hammer.

I suspect that once you get big enough, Apple is reluctant to touch you. Remember, Uber broken Apple's app rules, and were not banned, merely threatened[1]. If Apple removes the app, then who will people blame? The app or Apple? I suspect Telegram might be betting on that. [1] https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2017/04/24/ubers-ka...

Telegram still concedes to Apple.

You cant join Telegram chats marked as NSFW on iOS devices.

Re: Telegram plans multi-billion dollar ICO for chat cryptocurrency

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Integrating cryptocurrency within an easy to use chat environment has added value. Gitlab and Github have chatops, irc had chatops for ages, there were bots for twitter... chatops for payment solutions/providers/oracles is just automation. 'Ok Google, please pay HN 1 Gbyte for the inspiration.'

See for a good example how Byteball is doing this in their Android client, encrypted chat inside their wallet, chat with bots and oracles and chat with other people to send 'MBytes' to their wallet or using e-mail with a 'claim' link. I paid my lunch that way to colleagues (who are now stuck with MBytes to play with).

To get around the Apple walled garden you could even make gateway GBYTE/NEO/XBT bots for Discord, Matrix/Riot or IRC.

https://medium.com/byteball/sending-cryptocurrency-to-email-...

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post #12
post #9

What is preventing every app/service to launch their own crypto currency? It looks like in these times it is in their own interest to launch their own crypto currency than adopting an existing one as they stand to make billions. In that scenario do we say bitcoin and their ilk is failing or succeeding?

Nothing is preventing them. So expect everyone to do it.

> Nothing is preventing them.

Fear of the SEC is likely preventing plenty of them.

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post #12
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What is preventing every app/service to launch their own crypto currency? It looks like in these times it is in their own interest to launch their own crypto currency than adopting an existing one as they stand to make billions. In that scenario do we say bitcoin and their ilk is failing or succeeding?

Nothing is preventing them. So expect everyone to do it.

And that is the problem with cryptocurrencies, everyone and anyone can produce on.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really understand the Apple policy on payments. How come, for example, they don't demand their cut from Monzo person to person transfers?

Isn’t Apple only seeking a cut of sales of digital goods? You can sell physical merchandise like a real book, but you can’t sell an ebook without cutting them in.

I thought surely you can buy ebooks on the Kindle app for iOS. But a quick search and you are right - nope, you cannot buy books on the Kindle app for iOS. The option just isn't there.

Re: Telegram plans multi-billion dollar ICO for chat cryptocurrency

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What is preventing every app/service to launch their own crypto currency? It looks like in these times it is in their own interest to launch their own crypto currency than adopting an existing one as they stand to make billions. In that scenario do we say bitcoin and their ilk is failing or succeeding?

> What is preventing every app/service to launch their own crypto currency?

Yeah, they will. Cryptocurrency in 2018 is the machine learning of 2017.

Startups will get asked "what is your blockchain strategy" instead of "what is your machine learning strategy".

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