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Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

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Re: Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

#11
So, the comparison on YouTube is between the VCV Rack and Mutable Instruments Elements, Rings, and Clouds. Mutable's offerings are presented in the Eurorack format, so they have much more 'immediacy' (physical knobs, etc.). But - they're all 'virtual' instruments! We're essentially just reading a comparison between two developers's DSP code.

There were no digital modulars in the 70s and 80s, and certainly nothing like the granular synthesis or physical modelling available today. A more meaningful comparison in that context would've been against something like a Roland System 100M or Moog Modular: instruments with real analog electronics.

Re: Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

#12

So, the comparison on YouTube is between the VCV Rack and Mutable Instruments Elements, Rings, and Clouds. Mutable's offerings are presented in the Eurorack format, so they have much more 'immediacy' (physical knobs, etc.). But - they're all 'virtual' instruments! We're essentially just reading a comparison between two developers's DSP code. There were no digital modulars in the 70s and 80s, and certainly nothing lik…

> We're essentially just reading a comparison between two developers's DSP code.

It's the same code. The Mutable Instruments modules are all open source.

Re: Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

#13
post #9

>Once you’ve created an account and installed it, you can start adding dozens of plug-ins, including various synthesizers, gates, reverbs, compressors, sequencers, keyboards, etc. Sigh.

It doesn't require making an account. You can download the main application and a lot of plug-ins (and sources for them) without logging in anywhere.

Re: Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

#14
Anyone got a good "full stack" setup for something like this (from midi controller to synth/sequencer/daw software)? I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the modularity and combinations of virtual synthesizers. I'm okay with a "toy setup" as long as it's possible to build upon (i.e. preferrably not something entirely different from what you'd use after you pass the acolyte threshold).

Re: Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

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post #13
post #9

>Once you’ve created an account and installed it, you can start adding dozens of plug-ins, including various synthesizers, gates, reverbs, compressors, sequencers, keyboards, etc. Sigh.

It doesn't require making an account. You can download the main application and a lot of plug-ins (and sources for them) without logging in anywhere.

Yeah, you can easily avoid having to make an account, if you just download and compile the plugins yourself. The account just makes it easier for those of us who don't want to fuss with all the compiling and copying-into-the-right-place of the plugins.

I do both - I have all the sources for all the public modules I can find (and there are usually about two more added, on average, every day by the community... WOW!) and I build VCV Rack from sources every week or so, just to see the development pace (and what a pace it is!), but I also just go through the web page, use an account, install the free plugins through the Plugin Manager feature, and so on.

It helps to compare the two while developing my own plugins.

And I have to say that this app is amazing! I've rekindled my love for modular synthesis (been into synths since the 70's) because of this app, and its all I'm taking to my bands jam sessions these days -replacing a suite of digital/DSP synths that I was previously relying on.

Re: Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

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post #14

Anyone got a good "full stack" setup for something like this (from midi controller to synth/sequencer/daw software)? I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the modularity and combinations of virtual synthesizers. I'm okay with a "toy setup" as long as it's possible to build upon (i.e. preferrably not something entirely different from what you'd use after you pass the acolyte threshold).

Hi - there are tons of great VCV patches available here:

https://patchstorage.com/platform/vcv-rack

A couple in there might qualify for your "full stack" requirement - or are at least pretty close.

I'd be happy to hear you found something - for my needs I've got a 'full stack' consisting of a 4-voice poly VCO/VCA/VCF standard, a little sequencer, and a drum synth - but its not really in a condition where I could share it since I built some of the modules with special configuration from sources... however, if I've wanted to sit down and create a stack from the standard modules for a while, so .. lets see who gets there first! :)

Re: Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

#19

"Digital audio workstations have become increasingly sophisticated, able to emulate with "plug-ins" the capabilities of sought-after analog studio gear of the past. It has taken a bit longer for virtual instruments to meet this same standard, but they may be nearly there." Hardware is much more hands on, with real dials, switches, and other means of physical interaction which screens and mice don't come close to matc…

And importantly, it's a way to get into synths without breaking the bank on "fixed layout" hardware, even if it's supposed to be awesome hardware. If you're on a $10/week allowance, projects like these are fantastic.

I concur! As someone who has spent, probably, close to a quarter of a million bucks on synth/audio hardware over the decades, I'm extremely keen on VCV Rack because it lets me design my "perfect" Eurorack setup without any investment, other than the time to get it set up - and more to the point, it lets me experiment with my setup, refining it, without buying a single cable. So once I get my stack configured the way I like it, I'm quite likely to go ahead and switch over to reality and buy all the modules I've used, so I've got it in the real world too.

A truly amazing bit of software, and it has also been a very rewarding experience to be an early adopter of this suite, because the progress made so far by the developers is nothing short of astonishing - not to mention the uptake and adoption by a lot of the more cocktail/unique modular designers out there ... many of whom, seem to have taken VCV Rack as their new standard test-bench for working out ideas before hardware prototyping - meaning we have a huge plethora of modules to play with!

Anyone interested in synthesisers NEEDS to put a weekend or two worth of effort into learning VCV Rack and creating their own stacks. Its really a very, very valuable bit of software - and its free! And its open source! So, you interested-in-programming-synthesizer-algorithm folks can get started with very, very little fuss, already ..

Re: Open source modular synth software lets you create 70s & 80s electronic music

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post #12

So, the comparison on YouTube is between the VCV Rack and Mutable Instruments Elements, Rings, and Clouds. Mutable's offerings are presented in the Eurorack format, so they have much more 'immediacy' (physical knobs, etc.). But - they're all 'virtual' instruments! We're essentially just reading a comparison between two developers's DSP code. There were no digital modulars in the 70s and 80s, and certainly nothing lik…

> We're essentially just reading a comparison between two developers's DSP code. It's the same code. The Mutable Instruments modules are all open source.

Not just the same code, but in many cases, the same developers! So there is a vested interest in making things match as closely as possible - it sells hardware, after all!
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