What I feel is lacking from this postmortem is looking inwards : did you make mistakes and how did it affect the outcome. Answer : we made a huge mistake to trust people with all our money. This mistake has led to all our problems. I know it sounds obvious, but still.
It's in big bold letters. "We were wrong."
How a PR Agency Stole Our Kickstarter Money
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#12There are a few things about this I don’t understand. How much money was it? Were they supposed to get a percentage of money raised, or did they get paid a fee and then get a percentage on top? Do I understand correctly that they’re having money problems so they kept your money to solve their money problems? The simple way to solve this is to take them to court. Is there anything more to the story than you trusted th…
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rdacalos/upstart-the-bo...
Looks like $35k. No one would risk destroying their reputation over that small sum. I wonder what the other side of the story is?
Abuse is pretty common in gamedev, but this would be flagrant.
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#13What I feel is lacking from this postmortem is looking inwards : did you make mistakes and how did it affect the outcome. Answer : we made a huge mistake to trust people with all our money. This mistake has led to all our problems. I know it sounds obvious, but still.
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#14What I feel is lacking from this postmortem is looking inwards : did you make mistakes and how did it affect the outcome. Answer : we made a huge mistake to trust people with all our money. This mistake has led to all our problems. I know it sounds obvious, but still.
It seems like it's even worse - "we were too lazy to jump through additional hoops to open a bank account in the proper jurisdiction and instead relied on a business partner to handle it for us"
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#15I don't know why but it kind of rubs me the wrong way PR agencies for Kickstarter/crowd-funding even exist. I'd rather back something that had someone passionate with a shitty cell phone video over the generic sterile PR videos that everything seems to have now. https://twitter.com/Woodshedagency The hashtags on their twitter description almost seem like satire.
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#16This is a perfect example of why we should all follow the "innocent until proven guilty" idea. There is no proof, no chance for the agency to refute claims, etc.
Convenient that they are also asking for more financing.
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#17There are a few things about this I don’t understand. How much money was it? Were they supposed to get a percentage of money raised, or did they get paid a fee and then get a percentage on top? Do I understand correctly that they’re having money problems so they kept your money to solve their money problems? The simple way to solve this is to take them to court. Is there anything more to the story than you trusted th…
> The simple way to solve this is to take them to court. Is there anything more to the story than you trusted them with your money and they kept it? It seems like the point of the post is to publicize what happened, and make sure other people are aware of the dangers of working with this agency: > If we don’t tell people what happened, it could happen to someone else. > We are cutting our losses and doing what we can…
I mean there's a reason why the "court of public opinion" isn't the best way to resolve issues...
edit: well, looks like Woodshead Agency protected their twitter account so you can't see the tweet now. That's not great.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The simple way to solve this is to take them to court. Is there anything more to the story than you trusted them with your money and they kept it? It seems like the point of the post is to publicize what happened, and make sure other people are aware of the dangers of working with this agency: > If we don’t tell people what happened, it could happen to someone else. > We are cutting our losses and doing what we can…
Or possibly damaging a reputation of a company unreasonably because we're only hearing one side of the story: https://twitter.com/Woodshedagency/status/943508162002513923 I mean there's a reason why the "court of public opinion" isn't the best way to resolve issues... edit: well, looks like Woodshead Agency protected their twitter account so you can't see the tweet now. That's not great.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's in big bold letters. "We were wrong."
I see what you are getting at, but my comment stands. Responsibility is not being taken.
They are the victims here (assuming they are telling the truth).
I don't blame people for being taken advantage of by a conman. I might advise them not to be so trusting, but I don't go around demanding they publicly take full responsibility for being the victim of a scam.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The simple way to solve this is to take them to court. Is there anything more to the story than you trusted them with your money and they kept it? It seems like the point of the post is to publicize what happened, and make sure other people are aware of the dangers of working with this agency: > If we don’t tell people what happened, it could happen to someone else. > We are cutting our losses and doing what we can…
Or possibly damaging a reputation of a company unreasonably because we're only hearing one side of the story: https://twitter.com/Woodshedagency/status/943508162002513923 I mean there's a reason why the "court of public opinion" isn't the best way to resolve issues... edit: well, looks like Woodshead Agency protected their twitter account so you can't see the tweet now. That's not great.
And if they have a good explanation, why have they been blocking people on twitter for asking for it?