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Re: Getting the World Quantum Ready

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Can I run Shors algorithm on this? If not, how many qubits would I need for that? If so, how do I short bitcoin?

According to this paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0205095 You can implement Shor's algorithm to factor an N-bit number with just 2n+3 qubits. So the 20 qubit processor would be able to factor any 8 bit number (not necessarily faster than a classical computer could, or even a human could, mind you).

As the question was about bitcoin, I'm not sure how prime factoring is relevant.

Re: Getting the World Quantum Ready

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to this paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0205095 You can implement Shor's algorithm to factor an N-bit number with just 2n+3 qubits. So the 20 qubit processor would be able to factor any 8 bit number (not necessarily faster than a classical computer could, or even a human could, mind you).

As the question was about bitcoin, I'm not sure how prime factoring is relevant.

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Re: Getting the World Quantum Ready

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to this paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0205095 You can implement Shor's algorithm to factor an N-bit number with just 2n+3 qubits. So the 20 qubit processor would be able to factor any 8 bit number (not necessarily faster than a classical computer could, or even a human could, mind you).

As the question was about bitcoin, I'm not sure how prime factoring is relevant.

> Can I run Shors algorithm on this? If not, how many qubits would I need for that?

The question was about Shor's algorithm. The question relating to bitcoin seemed like an aside.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm

Given that the original article was about Quantum Computing, I was more interested in answering questions about Quantum Computing.

Re: Getting the World Quantum Ready

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As the question was about bitcoin, I'm not sure how prime factoring is relevant.

> Can I run Shors algorithm on this? If not, how many qubits would I need for that? The question was about Shor's algorithm. The question relating to bitcoin seemed like an aside. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm Given that the original article was about Quantum Computing, I was more interested in answering questions about Quantum Computing.

Yes, but bitcoin's authentication is via ECDSA. Elliptic curve discrete log is solvable with Shor's algorithm, but the qubit calculation would be different.

Wikipedia seems to indicate that 2330 qubits and 126 billion Toffoli gates would be required for elliptic curves with 256-bit group size, although I wonder if the endomorphism of secp256k1 gives an additional speedup.

Re: Getting the World Quantum Ready

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> What if everyone in the 1960s had a decade to prepare for PCs [...] while they were still prototypes? In hindsight, we can all see that jumping in early would have been the right call.

This is an interesting hypothetical based on the assumption that quantum computers will be available in 10 years time. What if the first practical quantum computers are still 50 years away? Using the same hypothetical, it would be like someone preparing for the PC age in that 1920s. That might be "jumping in" too early.

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