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Apple Buys Shazam to Boost Apple Music

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Re: Apple Buys Shazam to Boost Apple Music

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> The 18-year-old company, which has required twice the average time to deliver an exit for backers, was valued at about $1 billion when it closed its last funding round in 2015.

If the last round had a strong liquidity preference then it wasn't really valued at $1 billion, and those investors might have even come out ahead.

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I still can't understand how that feature works. They stated that everything is done locally on the device, so privacy is not an issue. But how can they host a huge catalog of songs fingerprints without blowing the storage? Are they only saving the top charts?

According to a friend who works at Google, they only store a catalog of ~20k popular songs that updates periodically. Fingerprints are small, so an archive of that size isn't too big.

Sucks for the little guys: http://www.thwink.org/sustain/glossary/CumulativeAdvantagePr...

Re: Apple Buys Shazam to Boost Apple Music

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I've used Shazam for years but lately for some reason I've been running into more music that it can't identify from two separate phones (so it's not possibly a bug limited to one device).

Hoping this doesn't mean there service is degrading because I've really benefited from it over the years.

Re: Apple Buys Shazam to Boost Apple Music

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Wow, that is an unusual exit after 6 rounds of funding. Crunchbase has it at $143M in funding up to that point.

It goes to show how the switch from radio (station directed programming) to streaming (user directed programming) has put a huge crimp in music discovery and music promotion.

[1] https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/shazam

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My understanding is that song fingerprints are tiny , so it's not too prohibitive to store an entire catalog of them on the device.

That's weird, because the AcoustID database is over 160GB: https://acoustid.org/database Then again, it does have 48M fingerprints, so that's only ~3.3KB/fingerprint. Maybe Google has a decent subset in a reasonably-sized package.

Reports on the Pixel library have it at either the 10k or 20k most popular tracks only. That makes for a reasonably small library.

Re: Apple Buys Shazam to Boost Apple Music

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The data that Shazam can gather must be incredibly useful to record labels, in that many people wanting to know the artist/song is a strong signal that a track is a potential hit. Since Apple already have data about what people are actually listening to (by location), this gives them additional data about what people might want to listen to.

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I still can't understand how that feature works. They stated that everything is done locally on the device, so privacy is not an issue. But how can they host a huge catalog of songs fingerprints without blowing the storage? Are they only saving the top charts?

They only store a catalog of the most popular songs. (Where 'most popular' is determined by your geographical location). This catalog is periodically updated.

Isn't the use case to find obscure music? Weird to have just popular ones. To "discover" a top 10 hit I can just ask someone nearby.

Re: Apple Buys Shazam to Boost Apple Music

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The data that Shazam can gather must be incredibly useful to record labels, in that many people wanting to know the artist/song is a strong signal that a track is a potential hit. Since Apple already have data about what people are actually listening to (by location), this gives them additional data about what people might want to listen to.

I love Shazam for finding new music and this is really one of my favorites. A couple times a month I see what the top Shazam’s are and usually pick up a new song or two.

Music is at my fingertips from a variety of apps. My biggest problem is discovering new artists or songs.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They only store a catalog of the most popular songs. (Where 'most popular' is determined by your geographical location). This catalog is periodically updated.

Isn't the use case to find obscure music? Weird to have just popular ones. To "discover" a top 10 hit I can just ask someone nearby.

Not necessarily. Everything is "obscure" to you the first time you hear it.
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