The killer feature of slack is that alerts are highly configurable and work properly across devices - it lets you eliminate unnecessary and duplicated alerts
How Slack hooks users through artificial urgency
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Re: How Slack hooks users through artificial urgency
#12Slack for work mostly sucks. It's OK for communities where urgency is obviously not there -- basically as an alternative IRC. I have worked at a couple companies that used IRC. They beauty of IRC is no offline notifications (unless you're using a cloud service, I guess) -- so it was only used during the workday. I'm not sure if this is the case with other teams, but I've been noticing my team has been using public ch…
If slack is only used during the work day then you would have the exact same application without the nice CI/file sharing and all the other bots slack has
How would you change the IM client??? Make it like slack. Just use slack.
"Slack for work mostly sucks." ... Whats your point? People use it after work hours?
Slack is not basically an alternative to IRC it IS an alternative, a better more feature rich one.
Slack has more features than IRC so slack sucks ... this typical tradition speak, fearful of new things. Many techies dont need slack but for those that have yet to take on the message app craze Slack is catalyzing a lot of new non techies.
Re: How Slack hooks users through artificial urgency
#13Plus, having the ability to comment in response to system events.
But I've worked with some Slack teams that spend hours attempting to communicate via animated GIFs. #InstantMute
Re: How Slack hooks users through artificial urgency
#14The killer feature of slack is that alerts are highly configurable and work properly across devices - it lets you eliminate unnecessary and duplicated alerts
Sure, but there are still two major problems IMHO. Firstly, there's no practical and intentional workflow to postpone things (an equivalent of "mark as unread"). Secondly, because a majority of people responds to notifications immediately, it becomes socially unacceptable to not do it in a timely manner.
What good is a messaging app that keeps you from communicating with me. The whole reason we have this app is for us to communicate, quicker and easier.
"Socially unacceptable" ... maybe you are neglecting some important communication? If your answer is no then you should discuss your availability with your team about your slack hours. Its fine to trun off the email and slack. When when you are one work time slack/email make communication better/easier. You should not blame or allow slack to employ a standard you would not be comfortable with even if slack was not invented (ex: your boss calls you at on the phone at 7pm, if thats not ok then you should also tell your boss you dont answer slack after 7pm)
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#15The killer feature of slack is that alerts are highly configurable and work properly across devices - it lets you eliminate unnecessary and duplicated alerts
Sure, but there are still two major problems IMHO. Firstly, there's no practical and intentional workflow to postpone things (an equivalent of "mark as unread"). Secondly, because a majority of people responds to notifications immediately, it becomes socially unacceptable to not do it in a timely manner.
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#16On the other hand @here/@channel messages are terrible! Now these are terrible because they confuse the "broadcast" nature messages with personal messages.
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#17I never really understood the hype around Slack. I keep reading articles like this one, I constantly hear people saying "zomg we transitioned to Slack and are having such an awesome time, it's way better then [insert messaging app]!". I'm probably getting old, but I've been using it for about 3-4 years now (because work) and it seems just like a polished IRC client tied to a proprietary service to me.
It's not just a dancey, polished IRC. It _is_ a dancey, polished IRC that invites people from all backgrounds to use it and enjoy it. As a communications glue for a company, I find it to be very valuable in talking not just with other developers, but other departments.
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#18As mentioned elsewhere, if I don't want to do something straight away, I star it for the next morning's run through my starred list, or if it's more particular than that set a reminder or something. It's really not too bad.
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#19Slack is not perfectly opinionated. It does not enforce a single way of working on everyone that uses it. One of the weakest areas I have found on HN has been discussion around organizations and how they function. New tools, like Slack, open new doors, but they are not silver bullets. Switching to Slack doesn't solve inherent organizational problems, bad organizational habits, poor management practices, or unrealistic (or misaligned) expectations.
We don't blame email for the emails your boss sends you at 2 in the morning.
Re: How Slack hooks users through artificial urgency
#20Slack for work mostly sucks. It's OK for communities where urgency is obviously not there -- basically as an alternative IRC. I have worked at a couple companies that used IRC. They beauty of IRC is no offline notifications (unless you're using a cloud service, I guess) -- so it was only used during the workday. I'm not sure if this is the case with other teams, but I've been noticing my team has been using public ch…
no offline notifications ... just filter it out. If slack is only used during the work day then you would have the exact same application without the nice CI/file sharing and all the other bots slack has How would you change the IM client??? Make it like slack. Just use slack. "Slack for work mostly sucks." ... Whats your point? People use it after work hours? Slack is not basically an alternative to IRC it IS an alt…