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Serious question: what is HTBQ+? Googling doesn't seem to turn anything up.

It seems to be a variant on LGBTQ. Except I guess with "Homosexual" replacing "Lesbian and Gay".

Correct, in Sweden we call it HBTQ+, and "Karlaplan" is a location in Stockholm. Seems likely whoever wrote this is from Sweden.

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I think it is right to „soft“-censor in this way (i.e. the information is accessible but not promoted). Reality without sorting and filters would be inhuman because market incentives to grab people’s attention would maximally exploit our tribal instincts and thereby completely destabilize our societies. This is already happening and it needs to stop immediately.

Who decides what to filter? How are they elected?

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Ironic that they're using Google docs platform to publish the research. Maybe the censorship effect is not advertent?

Perhaps it is a dare for Google to make the incredibly foolish move of deleting the content or taking action. Even if technically against the terms of use to reverse engineer, taking action against the account would bring more negative attention to Google.

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Every single video, without exception, that I've uploaded in the past few months has been demonetized within a day or two. Then I request manual review and they're monetized again within another day or two.

My content is clean and all of it is programming/tech related (programming tutorials and some Raspberry Pi stuff).

So if there is an algorithm it's really naive at this stage or it doesn't apply until you request manual review.

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The other day I stumbled upon this project: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube It's a federated tube that uses ActivityPub and WebTorrent. I think this platform should be invested in and creators should consider moving. The interests of YouTube and its creators will never be entirely aligned.

That's a cool project.

However, to make videos with quality content at a reasonable frequency, many of these creators depend on YouTube for income or at least partial income.

Any P2P / federated service would have to find an agreeable way to A) send ads in a safe and private way to each viewer B) stop people from manipulating the system to game ads while accurately determining if an ad was viewed.

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Every single video, without exception, that I've uploaded in the past few months has been demonetized within a day or two. Then I request manual review and they're monetized again within another day or two. My content is clean and all of it is programming/tech related (programming tutorials and some Raspberry Pi stuff). So if there is an algorithm it's really naive at this stage or it doesn't apply until you request…

In my experience, Youtube demonetizes based on metadata. So any tags/descriptions with keywords that YT views as “controversial” the system will demonetize regardless of actual content in the video.

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I never understood why Youtube didn't have uploaders select various categories for videos. It would do a number of things:

* allow them to demonetize / ban / block videos for abuse of categorization

* train machine learning on the various categories

It's a lot more socially palatable for Youtube to say "Hey guys, we HAVE a blood and violence category, but you didn't use it for this video. So we'll punish you for that."

Instead, we get programming videos getting demonetized / blocked for god only knows what reason. That makes people made, and is bad press.

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Seems to me content creators who get upset at their treatment by Youtube have made a serious mistake; they believe they are Youtube's customers. They are not. Neither are the people watching the videos. The advertisers are the customers, just like most other Google services. You are the product. If you don't like it, you need to switch to a platform where you are the customer and the provider cares about you on that level. Google never will.
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