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Ask HN: High functioning alcoholism – anyone?

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Re: Ask HN: High functioning alcoholism – anyone?

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5 nights a week half a bottle of wine isn't an alcoholic. It's drinking too much. If you're at a bottle of wine s night that's certainly too much. You've got a poor habit that's all. Just put a system in of deferring first drink, going to bed s bit earlier i.e. Before the last drink, and ensure you have a glass of water and a cup of tea between each glass. That'll reduce the amount you drink by s glass or two. You're…

As someone who drank a bottle of wine every night for 2 years flat, I totally agree.

There is a world of difference between having a drink habit and being alcoholic.

Now I can go for months at a time without touching it. The trick for me is not having it in the house. Getting plenty of exercise helps a lot, if for no other reason than it gets me outdoors and breaks up the routine.

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5 nights a week half a bottle of wine isn't an alcoholic. It's drinking too much. If you're at a bottle of wine s night that's certainly too much. You've got a poor habit that's all. Just put a system in of deferring first drink, going to bed s bit earlier i.e. Before the last drink, and ensure you have a glass of water and a cup of tea between each glass. That'll reduce the amount you drink by s glass or two. You're…

Alcoholism isn't defined in terms of how much you drink, but how much control you have over your drinking. If OP thinks he has a problem with drinking too much then probably he does have a problem.

It's possible but I have lived with an alcoholic and, from my experience, I'd say two things to this.

One - voluntarily admitting he has a problem is a major clue that he isn't an alcoholic.

Two - half to one bottle of wine wouldn't touch the sides with my ex who would easily do that amount before breakfast without anyone even knowing.

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Would it help to become more snobbish about wine?

I really love fine wine, and cheap stuff doesn't really do it for me; it's either fruity and boring, or unbalanced and rough. But get me a rich Cote Rotie, or savoury Burgundy, and it's a different category. And neither are available in any decent quality for less than $50, or much closer to $150 a bottle for the stuff I really like. At this price level, it's a treat that happens no more than a dozen times a year, and usually less, only on special occasions.

I say this because you say you like the taste, rather than it being the sensation of being drunk.

You could also find something else of complexity to drink - gourmet coffee is an obvious candidate.

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I'm mot in your situation, but you certainly are not alone.

At least in Finland high functioning 'risk alcohol consumers' are the largest group dying and suffering from alcohol related diseases. They get heart diseases, diabetes, dementia, cancers, strokes. Derelicts are just small and visible minority of alcoholics.

Being aware of the problem is already a big step.

"When do I get this development done? .. with tobacco and wine it would be done. But I have to learn this also without them. I must!" – Jean Sibelius, composer fighting the writers block.

Re: Ask HN: High functioning alcoholism – anyone?

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It's unfortunate that this industry embraces alcoholism so much. I've been in your situation for a long time (much worse amounts of alcohol though), but as I grow older I notice the side-effects more, and am worried what I've done to my organs.

I'm trying to cut back myself at the moment, and my wife is helping me by identifying when I've drank 3+ nights in a row -- "do you really need it tonight? give your body a rest". I would encourage you to ask your wife to remind you in a loving way.

Re: Ask HN: High functioning alcoholism – anyone?

#20
You are not an alcoholic in the psycho sense but more like you need to "drink" or "consume" something to keep going.

This is relevant in most cultures. For example, in the middle east where Alcohol is taboo there is Shisha: http://wrpm.ca/wrpm/store/images/products/narjila-b.jpg

Unlike a cigarette, you need to sit down for the full period to consume a Shisha. More like 1-2 hours break. People need a break. Westerns go to the bar.

It is easier than running. Running is healthier but requires some work and effort. Also you can't socialize or talk when running vs. when consuming a drink/smoke.

My suggestion would be to "balance out" your consumption. Maybe try the electronic cigarette if you are a smoker. Maybe switch to a Mojito drink with low alcohol but a focus on lemon/gas pressure to feel a strong taste.

The new drink will distract you from wine but give a similar satisfaction.

Remember that alcoholic feels alcohol differently than us. I get on the mood on 2-3 beers but a tequila shot kills it. I can drink wine and it doesn't make me drank just loose.

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