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This just makes me hate the god people involved in his demise.
I likewise knew Bill. I met his parents once too, and saw his kindness and good nature reflected in them as well. This is a tragedy no one should have to bear. We miss him.
Umm... did you read Bill's letter in its entirety? > I'd also like to address my family, if you can call them that. I despise everything they stand for and I truly hate them, in a non-emotional, dispassionate and what I believe is a healthy way. The world will be a better place when they're dead—one with less hatred and intolerance.
It's very sad that he felt he had to take his own life. I wish he had reached out and gotten professional help for his depression.
This just makes me hate the god people involved in his demise.
Keep in mind that there are usually two sides to every story. I'm not saying he was lying, this was his perception of the situation. Other people had much different impressions of his parents.
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Keep in mind that there are usually two sides to every story. I'm not saying he was lying, this was his perception of the situation. Other people had much different impressions of his parents.
If your son is getting abused and you don’t realize it or don’t want to realize it you are beyond awful
They sound familiar to me. I’ve been stuck in loops of anger/pain where I can’t let go of an axiom, even though I know it’s probably not representative of reality, because I am obsessed about the possibility of finding another axiom under that one.... one that is both represented in reality AND addresses the pain I am feeling.
The only way that can continue for months/years is by keeping it a secret. He keeps saying over and over how he could never tell anyone because it would get out. But that’s his false axiom. Talking would’ve been the only way to find release. Talking would’ve unraveled his nonsense thoughts. But he needed to cling to them to feel safe.
I’m not sad he killed himself, that was his decision. But I’m sad he went so long without having a true friend or a doctor who could listen and help process reality with. That sounds unbearable.
There is someone out there who can hold the conversation you need to have. You will probably have to try with several people to find them, and it will be devastatingly hard. It will be terrifying. But it is the only way to get to the point where you have a confidant whose eyes you can use to correct your own flawed vision.
There is someone out there who has been waiting their whole life to have that conversation with you.
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Umm... did you read Bill's letter in its entirety? > I'd also like to address my family, if you can call them that. I despise everything they stand for and I truly hate them, in a non-emotional, dispassionate and what I believe is a healthy way. The world will be a better place when they're dead—one with less hatred and intolerance.
Why do you think he didn't read the letter in its entirety? Just because Zeller hated his parents doesn't mean his description of them is accurate. Don't forget, it's a suicide note. People use them to vent their grievances, real and perceived. It's very sad that he felt he had to take his own life. I wish he had reached out and gotten professional help for his depression.
"You may wonder why I didn't just talk to a professional about this. I've seen a number of doctors since I was a teenager to talk about other issues and I'm positive that another doctor would not have helped. I was never given one piece of actionable advice, ever."
I likewise knew Bill. I met his parents once too, and saw his kindness and good nature reflected in them as well. This is a tragedy no one should have to bear. We miss him.
Umm... did you read Bill's letter in its entirety? > I'd also like to address my family, if you can call them that. I despise everything they stand for and I truly hate them, in a non-emotional, dispassionate and what I believe is a healthy way. The world will be a better place when they're dead—one with less hatred and intolerance.
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Umm... did you read Bill's letter in its entirety? > I'd also like to address my family, if you can call them that. I despise everything they stand for and I truly hate them, in a non-emotional, dispassionate and what I believe is a healthy way. The world will be a better place when they're dead—one with less hatred and intolerance.
The example he chose to show how bad they were makes them look fairly reasonable. So perhaps his judgment was clouded. That example was that Muslims who follow the koran are terrorists. The koran does actually advise people to kill quite a lot of other people, so following it strictly would make you at least a murderer, if not a terrorist.
They seem reasonable, alright.
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If your son is getting abused and you don’t realize it or don’t want to realize it you are beyond awful
Oh, FFS! I'm talking about his remarks about his parents, not the sexual abuse, which should be completely obvious from the context.