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Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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Why does the article say that the same effect will not hold for humans? Is there anything to substantiate that?

It's long been thought that a large percentage of studies on mice can not be replicated in humans because we are such different species but we use mice because it is cheap. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/the_mouse_t... Some larger animals might be somewhat closer but a.) much more expensive b.) more ethically challenging to kill/drug something more intelligent at the scale at which we do mice An acq…

I bought some live lobsters to kill (humanely, with a knife to the brain) and steam. I only had him in my custody for a couple hours, but I got attached. I had a bad experience thinking about taking a life, and it kinda fucked me up. I don't think I'll be doing it again. If I had to kill everything I ate, I'd be vegetarian. But I have no problem buying it at the store.

Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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post #10

What if a trans man administers the Ketamine?

I wonder if mice can finally settle whether traps are gay.

You're an ass. Comments like this make me hate people. Why does it even matter what their sexuality is? And why does that group of people need a special name

Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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post #10

What if a trans man administers the Ketamine?

I wonder if mice can finally settle whether traps are gay.

Because you believe all "traps" have the same sexual orientation, and you're afraid to simply ask them?

Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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Before anyone who didn't actually read the link goes off at it - this is a peer reviewed, repeated study - mice react to drugs differently depending on the sex of the researcher, don't in a fume hood, do always in a fume hood with a human male's t-shirt. It potentially plays havoc with ALL past experiments with rodents ...

This is a good video about the phenomenon, and specifically about how it affects research on psychoactive substances:

https://vimeo.com/33803995

Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if mice can finally settle whether traps are gay.

You're an ass. Comments like this make me hate people. Why does it even matter what their sexuality is? And why does that group of people need a special name

It's not his first transphobic remark. Not only does he call trans people "traps", but he also objects to using proper pronouns because "I don't like my speech being dictated". It's easy to guess what he's obsessed with and ashamed about, and it's not about his lack of ability to treat people with respect.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15242499

And FYI, in case you're a nice enough person to have missed the reference, "Are Traps Gay" is an alt-right meme and shout-out to Milo Yiannopoulos.

Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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It's interesting to think about what this could mean for people. We use these mice because they often are convenient models for humans. Are our moods are just as affected by combinations of lots of little things like these - smells, hormones, chemicals in the cleaners, hair products etc.

On the scary side imagine being able to use this for evil. Spray something like this on your product to manipulate people's hormonal system to respond to it, maybe trigger affection towards it. Even worse, spray it to induce rage or hate for example.

Re: Ketamine lifts rodents' mood only if administered by male researchers

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This reminds me of Feynman's story of the researcher who eliminated possible variables in rat experiments one by one, to find a surprising result (EDIT: To find that rats didn't need smell, spatial relationships, taste, or vision to find the cheese - the sound of the floor was enough) https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/02/the_rat_experi...
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