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Re: IRC necromancy

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irc is so useful that i cant believe it is dying, and aside from freenode perhaps even dead. so what killed the IRC? its not like theres any other alternative out there. slack seems to come close but its still very different and for a different purpose.

We use IRC sort of interchangeably with Slack at my work. The nice thing about IRC is you can host it on-premise and Slack doesn't have all of your company's confidential information. The downside is that it doesn't come bundled with a pretty webapp with GIFs and emojis.

There’s always Riot https://about.riot.im/ which is a nice and fully open source app so you could set that up on-premise too. :)

Re: IRC necromancy

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XDCC original author here. Nice to read this kind of stuff!

Thank you! I've downloaded so much stuff via XDCC that wasn't available in torrent form, or even sold anywhere.

Re: IRC necromancy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We use IRC sort of interchangeably with Slack at my work. The nice thing about IRC is you can host it on-premise and Slack doesn't have all of your company's confidential information. The downside is that it doesn't come bundled with a pretty webapp with GIFs and emojis.

There’s always Riot https://about.riot.im/ which is a nice and fully open source app so you could set that up on-premise too. :)

Not sure why you're getting voted down. I'm looking for something to replace hip chat at the moment (we replaced slack with hipchat as slack didn't work well for us either), so I'm genuinely curious why a suggestion for riot is unpopular. Anyone care to comment?

Re: IRC necromancy

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irc is so useful that i cant believe it is dying, and aside from freenode perhaps even dead. so what killed the IRC? its not like theres any other alternative out there. slack seems to come close but its still very different and for a different purpose.

For me, it is the fact that most people connect with multiple devices, and want to have a smooth transition between them, and to be able to see history on all of them.

There is no easy way of doing that with IRC, which kills it for me.

Re: IRC necromancy

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irc is so useful that i cant believe it is dying, and aside from freenode perhaps even dead. so what killed the IRC? its not like theres any other alternative out there. slack seems to come close but its still very different and for a different purpose.

Discord, overwhelmingly.

Every IRC community I used to be a part of even a year ago has made the jump. It's just more convenient for all concerned- the only holdouts are people clinging to their CLIs and people objecting for ideological reasons.

I wish it hadn't come to this, but IRC's just stagnated for too long. The barrier to entry's too high, using it on mobile devices is a chore, the feature set's extremely limited, etc. Had IRCv3 managed to get off the ground and made some strides towards creating a modern user experience maybe two years ago, Discord wouldn't have had such a vulnerable market open for it to stroll in and snatch up.

Discord provides seamless cloud message logging, mobile notifications, intuitive clients, a huge ecosystem of easy-to-use bots, and integration with games that just works without the user having to set anything up. Even non-gaming-related communities have been switching to it for convenience's sake.

Re: IRC necromancy

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irc is so useful that i cant believe it is dying, and aside from freenode perhaps even dead. so what killed the IRC? its not like theres any other alternative out there. slack seems to come close but its still very different and for a different purpose.

I think it may be partly that it was largely created and used by people who don’t care about ease of use and appearances, maybe partly because it kept out the masses. Make it hard for new people and eventually your old users are gone with no one to replace them.

Personally I try to keep most of my workflow in the terminal but I haven’t been able to find an irc client I like and the rooms I join are always silent. I don’t the etiquette and have zero incentives learn

Re: IRC necromancy

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irc is so useful that i cant believe it is dying, and aside from freenode perhaps even dead. so what killed the IRC? its not like theres any other alternative out there. slack seems to come close but its still very different and for a different purpose.

Change aversion killed IRC. A lot of the opers on the big networks are extremely conservative and default to poo-pooing ideas because it's simpler.

IRC with good mobile/push support could have taken off, but using it from a mobile device is painful because of the constant drops and the need to have your device responding to ping pongs every few seconds kills your battery.

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