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Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by sametmax » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 1:29 PM UTC

Sawamara wrote: post #9

This is a very solid foundation to work with, for anyone who might have struggled with the contexts and how arrow functions, local variables, thises (hah) and prototypes fit into the bigger picture. It also clearly shows that Javascript is not the mess that it looks like from a beginner's perspective. Yes, anyone can create a 15-20 min video about how == and === can mess up stuff, how you cant just pass around a func…

Sure this car get dust on the ventilation, and you can mess up if you use the 3rd gear and you can't really use the blinkers without being careful and the seat warmers are wtf.

But in the end of the day, stick to this car long enough and it works for you.

Plus the most popular road of the world only accept this car so take it or leave.

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by fiala__ » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 1:42 PM UTC

skocznymroczny wrote: post #10

Sawamara wrote: post #9

This is a very solid foundation to work with, for anyone who might have struggled with the contexts and how arrow functions, local variables, thises (hah) and prototypes fit into the bigger picture. It also clearly shows that Javascript is not the mess that it looks like from a beginner's perspective. Yes, anyone can create a 15-20 min video about how == and === can mess up stuff, how you cant just pass around a func…

I just wish Javascript had a standarized working module system that doesn't require external dependencies (webpack/rollup etc.)...

It does now (ES2015 modules) but it was standardized too late, so people created their own solutions, and now it's super hard to implement the standard over them. That's why nodejs isn't transitioning to ES2015 modules anytime soon (although they're working on it).

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by vog » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 1:57 PM UTC

sAbakumoff wrote: post #8

As much as I like dmitrysoshnikov's content, I think it can't compete with You Don't Know JS series.

Do you care to elaborate? What do you see missing, what should be improved?

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by macspoofing » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 2:04 PM UTC

Sawamara wrote: post #9

This is a very solid foundation to work with, for anyone who might have struggled with the contexts and how arrow functions, local variables, thises (hah) and prototypes fit into the bigger picture. It also clearly shows that Javascript is not the mess that it looks like from a beginner's perspective. Yes, anyone can create a 15-20 min video about how == and === can mess up stuff, how you cant just pass around a func…

>It also clearly shows that Javascript is not the mess that it looks like from a beginner's perspective.

Let's agree to disagree. I suspect your bar is too low. You could have made that argument for early versions of PHP (i.e. before 5)

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by frik » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 2:08 PM UTC

I wish Douglas Crockford would update his great "JavaScript: The Good Parts". It's still great and aged okayish, but doesn't cover ES2015+.

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by mariushn » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 2:24 PM UTC

Related, any Typescript guides that you found very useful?

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by joshuacc » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 2:28 PM UTC

mariushn wrote: post #16

Related, any Typescript guides that you found very useful?

I've found Basarat's TypeScript Deep Dive very helpful: https://basarat.gitbooks.io/typescript/content/

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by at-fates-hands » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 2:50 PM UTC

sametmax wrote: post #11

Sawamara wrote: post #9

This is a very solid foundation to work with, for anyone who might have struggled with the contexts and how arrow functions, local variables, thises (hah) and prototypes fit into the bigger picture. It also clearly shows that Javascript is not the mess that it looks like from a beginner's perspective. Yes, anyone can create a 15-20 min video about how == and === can mess up stuff, how you cant just pass around a func…

Sure this car get dust on the ventilation, and you can mess up if you use the 3rd gear and you can't really use the blinkers without being careful and the seat warmers are wtf. But in the end of the day, stick to this car long enough and it works for you. Plus the most popular road of the world only accept this car so take it or leave.

Not everybody can afford a Tesla or a BMW.

For some of us, A Toyota Corolla or a Honda Accord is more than capable of getting the job done.

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by alexhutcheson » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 3:13 PM UTC

frik wrote: post #15

I wish Douglas Crockford would update his great "JavaScript: The Good Parts". It's still great and aged okayish, but doesn't cover ES2015+.

Is there a good similar book that covers modern JS?

Re: JavaScript. The Core: 2nd Edition

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Post by jjawssd » Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 3:19 PM UTC

at-fates-hands wrote: post #18

sametmax wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure this car get dust on the ventilation, and you can mess up if you use the 3rd gear and you can't really use the blinkers without being careful and the seat warmers are wtf. But in the end of the day, stick to this car long enough and it works for you. Plus the most popular road of the world only accept this car so take it or leave.

Not everybody can afford a Tesla or a BMW. For some of us, A Toyota Corolla or a Honda Accord is more than capable of getting the job done.

It is so tempting to poke holes in this analogy but in general I like it!