Shouldn't he have been removed quite some time ago for violating the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide?
Removed by whom?
Zimbabwe's Military in Apparent Takeover, Says It Has Custody of President
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#12Robert Mugabe has been president of Zimbabwe since 1987. That is, 30 years.
And initially he was a very good leader. But lately, if you listen to his speeches, he is downright senile. And he can hardly walk on his own. That's why the general convention of serving a maximum of 2 or 3 terms is so important.
If by "good" you mean "adept at removing his enemies and any constraints on his power", then yes, he was very good
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#13"While denying that the military had seized power, they said that Mr. Mugabe and his family “are safe and sound, and their security is guaranteed.” “We are only targeting criminals around him who are committing crimes that are causing social and economic suffering in the country in order to bring them to justice," This doesn't look good.
According to (whoever controls...) the official Zanu-PF twitter account, Robert Mugabe and his wife has been detained.
The former vice president, Mnangagwa (who was sacked by Mugabe last week, so that his wife Grace could take the #2 spot) is acting president, according to an army statement.
Also, reports of gun and artillery fire from northern Harare - the district where Mugabe and his cronies live.
Also, predictably, the army claims this is not a coup, and that they are merely acting to preserve the constitution and the republic. (That being said, if one is to stage a coup somewhere, one could find a less deserving country than Zimbabwe; let's just hope the army has the good sense to hand over power to civilian authorities ASAP.)
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#14There have been several coups or other undemocratic assumptions of power recently: Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, China (Xi seems to have made himself dictator-for-life), Turkey, and to a degree in Japan, in at least one Eastern European country, and even in France (which AFAIK now has an indefinite state of emergency curtailing rights of citizens).
I wonder how much and in what way they are related to the U.S. changing its long-standing policy from being the guarantor of international order, and from being an advocate for democracy as a universal right. Some examples in my list started before the current US policy went into effect, but perhaps the US is accelerating a trend, merely responding to it, or even taking an active hand (during the Cold War the US played an active role in such things, from Congo/Zaire to Chile to Iran to Indonesia to many other places). Perhaps others are taking active hands now that the US is out of the picture (to a significant degree) as guarantor.
That trend, away from democracy, is very serious and is the headline here for me. Generations fought, struggled and died to establish the legacy of democracy and human rights that we inherited; what are we building for the next generation? It feels like we are just gambling away the family inheritance.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
And initially he was a very good leader. But lately, if you listen to his speeches, he is downright senile. And he can hardly walk on his own. That's why the general convention of serving a maximum of 2 or 3 terms is so important.
As they say - Either you die (or step down in this case) a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. There are multiple cases in developing countries where the family/friends takes over in case of someone powerful going senile.
> Either you die (or step down in this case) a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
In many countries these days, you are simply voted out of office or leave it when your term is up.
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#16Robert Mugabe has been president of Zimbabwe since 1987. That is, 30 years.
And initially he was a very good leader. But lately, if you listen to his speeches, he is downright senile. And he can hardly walk on his own. That's why the general convention of serving a maximum of 2 or 3 terms is so important.
> initially he was a very good leader
When? What did he do that was good? He didn't implement democracy; that would have been good.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
And initially he was a very good leader. But lately, if you listen to his speeches, he is downright senile. And he can hardly walk on his own. That's why the general convention of serving a maximum of 2 or 3 terms is so important.
Long before he turned senile, he turned corrupt. He has ruined his country economically. This is the real reason for a maximum of 2 or 3 terms. Power corrupts.
It's recently been proven you only need 1 year for this.
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#18"While denying that the military had seized power, they said that Mr. Mugabe and his family “are safe and sound, and their security is guaranteed.” “We are only targeting criminals around him who are committing crimes that are causing social and economic suffering in the country in order to bring them to justice," This doesn't look good.
According to (whoever controls...) the official Zanu-PF twitter account, Robert Mugabe and his wife has been detained. The former vice president, Mnangagwa (who was sacked by Mugabe last week, so that his wife Grace could take the #2 spot) is acting president, according to an army statement. Also, reports of gun and artillery fire from northern Harare - the district where Mugabe and his cronies live. Also, predictabl…
That is not their official twitter handle. I wouldn't take what they tweet as an official statement from ZanuPF
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#19Robert Mugabe has been president of Zimbabwe since 1987. That is, 30 years.
And initially he was a very good leader. But lately, if you listen to his speeches, he is downright senile. And he can hardly walk on his own. That's why the general convention of serving a maximum of 2 or 3 terms is so important.
When was he a good leader? When he was sanctioning the genocide of the Matebele people in 1983?
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#20Robert Mugabe has been president of Zimbabwe since 1987. That is, 30 years.
He was the prime minister and effectively the leader of Zimbabwe since 1980.