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House Republicans propose to scrap $7,500 electric vehicle credit

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Re: House Republicans propose to scrap $7,500 electric vehicle credit

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I mean it's kind of the point of tax reform. You eliminate deductions that only wealthier people benefit from and lower the rate over all. You'll see a lot of deductions go away that are good on their own but in aggregate with all the other deductions give us such a massively complex system.

This is not some exploitable loophole abused by the ultra wealthy.

Re: House Republicans propose to scrap $7,500 electric vehicle credit

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And if they scrap oil subsidies too, the market can figure it all out. But looks like most direct and indirect O&G subsidies will remain.

~ rolls eyes ~ if you seriously believe the market magically deals with externalized costs

Re: House Republicans propose to scrap $7,500 electric vehicle credit

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And if they scrap oil subsidies too, the market can figure it all out. But looks like most direct and indirect O&G subsidies will remain.

If we want to leave it all to the markets, we need to consider the externalities too, e.g. through a carbon tax.

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post #4

I mean it's kind of the point of tax reform. You eliminate deductions that only wealthier people benefit from and lower the rate over all. You'll see a lot of deductions go away that are good on their own but in aggregate with all the other deductions give us such a massively complex system.

Sadly, most of the deductions that disproportionately benefit wealthy people aren't going anywhere (mortgage interest, IRA/401k/tax-free savings, FSA/HSA, etc.) since they appear to benefit everyone and foster the american dream of home ownership.

* Mortgage Interest is dropping from 1-million to 500k.

* State / Local tax disproportionately benefits richer states (which tend to have higher income taxes). That's also going away.

The real issue IMO is that the standard deduction is going up, and the top tax rate is going down. The overall effect seems to be a tax-increase for me and a tax-decrease to those who are richer than me.

They probably should close the backdoor Roth loophole, and a few other corporate loopholes (Irish Double Sandwich or whatever its called).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement

Re: House Republicans propose to scrap $7,500 electric vehicle credit

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And if they scrap oil subsidies too, the market can figure it all out. But looks like most direct and indirect O&G subsidies will remain.

O&G companies are able to write off the cost of doing business just like other businesses. They are not "subsidies".

https://www.forbes.com/sites/drillinginfo/2016/02/22/debunki...

Re: House Republicans propose to scrap $7,500 electric vehicle credit

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Curious if this would impact the yet-to-be-produced Tesla Model 3s or if it would only discourage future automakers from manufacturing EVs?

Some of the Model 3s, it is per manufacturer and begins to phase out after 200,000 vehicles.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/28/tesla-is-running-out-of-fede...

So people at the front of the line would be eligible for the full amount.

The ongoing drop in battery costs is likely a bigger factor than the rebate though.

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I bought a Prius Prime earlier this year anticipating that such a move was possible. This would be a real shame, though, because it does help level the playing field a bit given how much our country invests in oil.

I choose the Volt over the Prime and I'm curious if you don't mind, what pulled you towards the Prime?

Re: House Republicans propose to scrap $7,500 electric vehicle credit

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I mean it's kind of the point of tax reform. You eliminate deductions that only wealthier people benefit from and lower the rate over all. You'll see a lot of deductions go away that are good on their own but in aggregate with all the other deductions give us such a massively complex system.

> You eliminate deductions that only wealthier people benefit The Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt aren't particularly upper class cars. Neither is the Model 3.

Nor are people spending $30,000 on a vehicle showing particularly price sensitive behavior.

Lots of fine vehicles available for $15,000, $15,000 is an awful lot of gas (and you save on insurance and financing with a cheaper vehicle, so the lower maintenance on the electric isn't the only consideration).

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post #11
post #4

I mean it's kind of the point of tax reform. You eliminate deductions that only wealthier people benefit from and lower the rate over all. You'll see a lot of deductions go away that are good on their own but in aggregate with all the other deductions give us such a massively complex system.

This is not some exploitable loophole abused by the ultra wealthy.

Those will remain

Re: House Republicans propose to scrap $7,500 electric vehicle credit

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post #3

Curious if this would impact the yet-to-be-produced Tesla Model 3s or if it would only discourage future automakers from manufacturing EVs?

As a Model 3 reservation holder, I was under the assumption that getting the EV credit was not a guarantee.
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