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How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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Silicon valley is a lot larger than just web start-ups. If and when YC launches something that eventually turns in to the next google or something on that scale it will have a real impact, but for now the big winners have not been created using the YC model. Who knows, maybe one day.

I would say Dropbox is on its way.

Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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post #4

Opponents of "Pay & Spray" will have a field day with Ron Conway's quote: Archangel Ron Conway, who said he’s put money into 500 companies over the last 12 years, kicked off the day with an optimistic and generous recruiting speech: He said he believes every “entrepreneur who has the guts to start a company” should get funding, and added “I believe the more angels we have in Silicon Valley the better.”

I think the original term is "Spray and Pray" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spray_and_pray).

Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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post #11

Silicon valley is a lot larger than just web start-ups. If and when YC launches something that eventually turns in to the next google or something on that scale it will have a real impact, but for now the big winners have not been created using the YC model. Who knows, maybe one day.

I would say Dropbox is on its way.

It's one of the more successful ones but for all the hype I haven't signed up and neither has anybody that I know outside of HN. Now I'm probably not the target audience anyway so that's no surprise, but I really can't see something like dropbox being the next google.

They have a business model that requires payment for anything but the most trivial uses (which is great, they'll be profitable, but it is a definite brake on growth). Hard to do that soft of thing without charging for it, and as soon as the price goes over $0 the market is much smaller.

It's a much bigger decision to pay at all than it is to pay $10 or $20.

Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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pg: “The way of the future is no fixed amount, no fixed closing date, and no lead.” This concept is unfamiliar to me? What does it mean? What compromises a "rolling" financing deal?

Which is exactly what I advocated for in "How my startup went IPO and skipped VC funding" http://blog.fairsoftware.net/2010/06/23/how-my-startup-went-... A rolling deal is when angels keep showing up over time and send you more money, rather than you setting a fixed date saying "on August 1st, I need 10 angels with $100,000 each, or my company is bankrupt".

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Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say Dropbox is on its way.

It's one of the more successful ones but for all the hype I haven't signed up and neither has anybody that I know outside of HN. Now I'm probably not the target audience anyway so that's no surprise, but I really can't see something like dropbox being the next google. They have a business model that requires payment for anything but the most trivial uses (which is great, they'll be profitable, but it is a definite br…

Data syncing is a huge problem and its need will only expand. Dropbox is at the forefront of this (i.e. when I think of search -> google, shopping -> amazon, online storage -> dropbox).

The consumer space is growing (more devices and users) and the enterprise space is wide open. I can see Dropbox going after Sharepoint et al.

You're right, it might not be enough to be the next google but they might come close.

Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say Dropbox is on its way.

It's one of the more successful ones but for all the hype I haven't signed up and neither has anybody that I know outside of HN. Now I'm probably not the target audience anyway so that's no surprise, but I really can't see something like dropbox being the next google. They have a business model that requires payment for anything but the most trivial uses (which is great, they'll be profitable, but it is a definite br…

Students are a big user group. The allure of accessing your school related files from anywhere (web access is a big plus) is quite big. They're probably not that lucrative, though.

Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

#17
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's one of the more successful ones but for all the hype I haven't signed up and neither has anybody that I know outside of HN. Now I'm probably not the target audience anyway so that's no surprise, but I really can't see something like dropbox being the next google. They have a business model that requires payment for anything but the most trivial uses (which is great, they'll be profitable, but it is a definite br…

Data syncing is a huge problem and its need will only expand. Dropbox is at the forefront of this (i.e. when I think of search -> google, shopping -> amazon, online storage -> dropbox). The consumer space is growing (more devices and users) and the enterprise space is wide open. I can see Dropbox going after Sharepoint et al. You're right, it might not be enough to be the next google but they might come close.

With the cost of storage being what it is I seriously question any business model that tries to sell you a plan based on the size of the storage on the other end of a wire.

You're basically setting yourself up to have a 'gmail' pulled on your 'hotmail'.

Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

#18
post #3

>Besides, acquisitions of young companies tend to be better for everyone involved, as compared to later-stage deals, said Geoff Ralston, who recently sold Lala to Apple. Integrations of billion-dollar companies almost never work, he said. If there was no acquisition of LaLa, we'd all be listening to music for 10 cents a track on our iPhones and Androids. Hopefully they come up with something awesome at Apple.

There's always Grooveshark.

Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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I remember a comment by google people, they said something in the lines that they prefer not to employee many valuable people because they being out are better for IT progress.

If YCombinator culture is too strong, it may damage the necessary diversity in people conception of a startup.

A good group of people need a lot of small differents groups in order to explore the landscape of startup opportunities. So let's hope that YHacker influence doesn't grow to excessive influence.

Re: How Y Combinator Is Remaking Silicon Valley in Its Image

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Data syncing is a huge problem and its need will only expand. Dropbox is at the forefront of this (i.e. when I think of search -> google, shopping -> amazon, online storage -> dropbox). The consumer space is growing (more devices and users) and the enterprise space is wide open. I can see Dropbox going after Sharepoint et al. You're right, it might not be enough to be the next google but they might come close.

With the cost of storage being what it is I seriously question any business model that tries to sell you a plan based on the size of the storage on the other end of a wire. You're basically setting yourself up to have a 'gmail' pulled on your 'hotmail'.

Why not extract value before that happens? There is always going to be the risk of a new competitor operating below costs, but money in the bank is the best way to fight that.

PS: Nobody things the best way to beat gmail is to offer 1 TB email accounts. Email fell behind the HW curve but as long as Dropbox stays reasonably close to actual costs nobody is going to dramatically undercut them.

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