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Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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I never understood how this guy didn't look more emaciated when he was found. Can you really catch enough birds and turtles to last 14 months and look reasonably fit?

The pictures of him are after receiving both food and fluids. The article discusses the edema he experienced. That’s probably why his face looks so full. His hands and forearms still look awfully skinny to me.

If the recent picture is what he looked like prior to the whole thing, he lost a lot of weight on that boat.

Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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post #11

I never understood how this guy didn't look more emaciated when he was found. Can you really catch enough birds and turtles to last 14 months and look reasonably fit?

The pictures of him are after receiving both food and fluids. The article discusses the edema he experienced. That’s probably why his face looks so full. His hands and forearms still look awfully skinny to me. If the recent picture is what he looked like prior to the whole thing, he lost a lot of weight on that boat.

you can see the edema in his ankles.

Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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I think this fascinates people in part because we sort of think it can't happen anymore. With 7 billion people, GPS, satellites, airplanes, cell phones, we think you can't get lost like this, you can't be so extremely alone. We think space is the only frontier left.

It flies in the face of our mental models of our world. On top of that, it is an extraordinary personal experience that is fascinating for that aspect. So many of us struggle hugely to cope even with the support of modern civilized life. I can't imagine figuring out the logistics of coping practically with such a situation. Coping psychologically is even more unimaginable to me.

Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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This story does add up. Likely fake / staged, with just enough facts to make it feel and sound credible. > Why is he so plump? > Where's the sun tan? > Could he really drift 8,000 miles across the ocean in 13 months? > Do urine and turtle blood add up to a credible alternative to fresh water? > How did he survive and his crewmate did not? Source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/458050/Is-the-castaway-s...

Did you actually read the article you linked to? It doesn't expose any kind of hoax. Rather, it poses those questions (as though posed by a disbeliever) and then provides the answers, concluding that the story absolutely makes sense, and that there's plenty of hard evidence.

Just that photo of him, standing in his shorts, should be sufficient. His hands are decidedly not pudgy, and his ankles are completely swollen.

Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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post #13

I think this fascinates people in part because we sort of think it can't happen anymore. With 7 billion people, GPS, satellites, airplanes, cell phones, we think you can't get lost like this, you can't be so extremely alone. We think space is the only frontier left. It flies in the face of our mental models of our world. On top of that, it is an extraordinary personal experience that is fascinating for that aspect. S…

People who hike the Appalachian Trail & co get lost and die every year. Doesn't take much. Now that is a tiny patch compared to the pacific ocean which is basically half the globe. Even if you can get a distress signal out by the time help arrives you might be in a different position or already dead, not to mention that the question remains if help ever comes. Helicopters can't fly very far, ships take days if not weeks. You might be able to post on Facebook but outside help is not an option (personal experience, not kidding!)

Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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post #13

I think this fascinates people in part because we sort of think it can't happen anymore. With 7 billion people, GPS, satellites, airplanes, cell phones, we think you can't get lost like this, you can't be so extremely alone. We think space is the only frontier left. It flies in the face of our mental models of our world. On top of that, it is an extraordinary personal experience that is fascinating for that aspect. S…

People who hike the Appalachian Trail & co get lost and die every year. Doesn't take much. Now that is a tiny patch compared to the pacific ocean which is basically half the globe. Even if you can get a distress signal out by the time help arrives you might be in a different position or already dead, not to mention that the question remains if help ever comes. Helicopters can't fly very far, ships take days if not we…

I am not suggesting these mental models are accurate. But it does seem to be harder to intentionally disappear these days. I think our fascination with such stories is similar to or related to our fascination with prison escapes and people who successfully disappeared on purpose.

I think a lot of people feel trapped, like prisoners of their lives. The idea that you could go for a boat ride or show up at your regular job and be just swept away contains both an element of horror and an element of tantalizing possibility. People often long to start their lives over, to walk away from their troubles. They read stuff like this and perhaps feel a mix of hope that it might actually be possible and validation that the cost is very high. It may make them feel both more at peace with not yet having escaped and hopeful for a better future for themselves.

Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who hike the Appalachian Trail & co get lost and die every year. Doesn't take much. Now that is a tiny patch compared to the pacific ocean which is basically half the globe. Even if you can get a distress signal out by the time help arrives you might be in a different position or already dead, not to mention that the question remains if help ever comes. Helicopters can't fly very far, ships take days if not we…

I am not suggesting these mental models are accurate. But it does seem to be harder to intentionally disappear these days. I think our fascination with such stories is similar to or related to our fascination with prison escapes and people who successfully disappeared on purpose. I think a lot of people feel trapped, like prisoners of their lives. The idea that you could go for a boat ride or show up at your regular…

Only issue with "being lost at sea" is that the declaration of death usually takes months if not years. Often that is relevant. Also it is not that easy to do it convincingly, people tried.

Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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Another case of a person lost at sea (and in this case, never recovered), is Evi Nemeth, author and professor of systems administration, who disappeared along with six others on June 4, 2014.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evi_Nemeth

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objecti...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5958974

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/30/unix_luminary_among_...

Re: Lost at sea: a man who vanished for 14 months (2015)

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post #13

I think this fascinates people in part because we sort of think it can't happen anymore. With 7 billion people, GPS, satellites, airplanes, cell phones, we think you can't get lost like this, you can't be so extremely alone. We think space is the only frontier left. It flies in the face of our mental models of our world. On top of that, it is an extraordinary personal experience that is fascinating for that aspect. S…

People who hike the Appalachian Trail & co get lost and die every year. Doesn't take much. Now that is a tiny patch compared to the pacific ocean which is basically half the globe. Even if you can get a distress signal out by the time help arrives you might be in a different position or already dead, not to mention that the question remains if help ever comes. Helicopters can't fly very far, ships take days if not we…

If you were able to post on Facebook, why didn't you have a GPS signal from which you could deliver your co-ordinates over the internet? (Just curious, not sure if I'm missing something)
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