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Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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Re: Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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This is not a profound statement, but rather obvious. If may calculations are right, there are roughly 6 billion 993 million people outside of Silicon Valley

Why did Silicon Valley ever become what it is, and why did it continue to be dominant in the tech industry for so long, when there were billions of people outside of Silicon Valley the entire time?

Clearly population numbers are not sufficient in themselves to explain why the situation will change.

Re: Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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With the greatest respect for Mr. Thiel and his accomplishments I'm skeptical. I've travelled the world and my experience is that very few places in the world have America's, often irrational, can-do attitude, appetite for new venture risk, and societal acceptance of new venture failure as an important part of the entrepreneurial process. I just don't think it's that easy to graft these cultural norms to other cultur…

He did say SV, which is probably true.

Europe may or may not have the culture you are suggesting, China might have that hunger but no business started there is safe from gov control, Russia has that control without the economic growth, a lot of places are too small.

But...there's probably a dozen cities in the US where you could get everything you can in SV (ok, maybe not the monoculture, the crazy VCs, the crazy cost of living, and tens of thousands of programmers). There are massive advantages to getting out of the Valley, someone is going to realize that, if it hasn't been obvious for a decade.

Re: Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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Could he just be pandering to his hosts? The concentration of talent and a whole ecosystem that supports entrepreneurs is a significant advantage. It will take time for any other region to amass the same advantages.

Talent is remote and talent is willing to move, especially when they can make an extra 50% through cost of living differences. That ecosystem produces some great stuff, but a lot of it is garbage. Those advantages are perhaps overstated unless your goal is to move to SV and become a unicorn. It's almost tautological.

Re: Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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With the greatest respect for Mr. Thiel and his accomplishments I'm skeptical. I've travelled the world and my experience is that very few places in the world have America's, often irrational, can-do attitude, appetite for new venture risk, and societal acceptance of new venture failure as an important part of the entrepreneurial process. I just don't think it's that easy to graft these cultural norms to other cultur…

He referenced China. Any big startups come out of there?

Re: Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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This is not a profound statement, but rather obvious. If may calculations are right, there are roughly 6 billion 993 million people outside of Silicon Valley

Why did Silicon Valley ever become what it is, and why did it continue to be dominant in the tech industry for so long, when there were billions of people outside of Silicon Valley the entire time? Clearly population numbers are not sufficient in themselves to explain why the situation will change.

Thanks for the down votes. But if you haven't realized, the world has changed dramatically since valley became Valley. There is a lot more wealth distribution around the world and technology is easily accessible. Look at the 50s and look at now and see how Asia has emerged as a dominant economic force. China is #2 in total GDP, and India is #7. Couple this with the fact that these two countries have unlimited workforce, it is quite obvious that big growth companies will start forming outside of the US, often focused on their local market. And capitalizing in capturing a lion's share of the local economic growth. And that's exactly what's happening. Alibaba, Tencent, Didi, Ola, FlipKart, OYO rooms, Grab.

This is not some profound statement from Thiel, but something very obvious.

Re: Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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With the greatest respect for Mr. Thiel and his accomplishments I'm skeptical. I've travelled the world and my experience is that very few places in the world have America's, often irrational, can-do attitude, appetite for new venture risk, and societal acceptance of new venture failure as an important part of the entrepreneurial process. I just don't think it's that easy to graft these cultural norms to other cultur…

He referenced China. Any big startups come out of there?

Alibaba. It's so big you can barely fathom that not too long ago, someone started a little website that turned into this.

Re: Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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Could he just be pandering to his hosts? The concentration of talent and a whole ecosystem that supports entrepreneurs is a significant advantage. It will take time for any other region to amass the same advantages.

Talent is remote and talent is willing to move, especially when they can make an extra 50% through cost of living differences. That ecosystem produces some great stuff, but a lot of it is garbage. Those advantages are perhaps overstated unless your goal is to move to SV and become a unicorn. It's almost tautological.

> but 90% of it is garbage.

That's inherent to the process of all creation and business starting. 90% of everything is garbage. That's a case where there's nothing unique about Silicon Valley. I'm sure you're at least vaguely aware of the very high failure rate of all new businesses within just a five year span.

Or see: last 200 years of industrial history. There were hundreds of automakers just in Detroit in the US, experimenting with just about everything they could. Most of it was garbage. It's a required part of the process of experimentation. If someone stands up and proclaims that aspect is stupid and a waste and they know better (they'd never make such mistakes, they'd never need to perform such wasteful experimentation), well, at least then you know who you're dealing with.

Re: Peter Thiel: Silicon Valley’s monopoly on big growth tech companies is over

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With the greatest respect for Mr. Thiel and his accomplishments I'm skeptical. I've travelled the world and my experience is that very few places in the world have America's, often irrational, can-do attitude, appetite for new venture risk, and societal acceptance of new venture failure as an important part of the entrepreneurial process. I just don't think it's that easy to graft these cultural norms to other cultur…

He did say SV, which is probably true. Europe may or may not have the culture you are suggesting, China might have that hunger but no business started there is safe from gov control, Russia has that control without the economic growth, a lot of places are too small. But...there's probably a dozen cities in the US where you could get everything you can in SV (ok, maybe not the monoculture, the crazy VCs, the crazy cos…

I agree that there are nice options in the US and you'll have a much more comfortable life. But if you want to learn as much as you can, if you want to have as many options as you could possible have, and quiet frankly earn as much as you could, you'll likely should move to SV and no other place in the US will even come close to that. The bleeding edge of technology is and will be in SV and China (and China is not really an option for most people).
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