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Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

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Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

#11
It's not really clear from the write up exactly what they're offering... How is this different from any other VC outfit?

IndieVC[0] is the only really interesting spin on investing I've seen out there and they open-sourced their terms sheet publicly at launch.

[0] http://www.indie.vc/

Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

#12
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The flaw here is using the wrong metrics. Once a company has found a repeatable and growing business model, it’s trivial to raise money and there’s no reason to pick Social Capital over anyone else. The big market opportunity is to fund startups at the very earliest signs of success. When all they have to show is some code and a few Hacker News upvotes or GitHub stars. Someone is going to make YCs returns look weak b…

so which metrics are the right ones to look at?

Social metrics. Would make the Social Capital name genuinely meaningful :-)

The “social response” (HN, GitHub, reddit, ...) to a new project, product, or service is all you should need to predict success at a high enough rate to do extremely well.

It’s not a matter of difficulty so much as conviction and intelligence.

Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

#14
The argument they are making is that they can leverage data about a company to determine how it should be invested in and what steps need to be taken to ensure success. This will supposedly be scalable and reach areas where venture capital is not available. Reminds me of Accelerando.

Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

#15
Genius. Finally, someone it taking a "moneyball" approach to VC. The critical comments on this thread have missed the point.

Although the author is vague, it sounds like they built a system to analyze company metrics and thus screen investments at scale. This enables them to see more investments around the world, and makes it easier for entrepreneurs to "pitch" them, because they don't need to do the time consuming, typical Silicon Valley pitch process. Many more companies can get funded this way. And those investments will be less competitive and garner lower valuations (implying better returns). Again... genius.

Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

#16
post #8
post #4

The flaw here is using the wrong metrics. Once a company has found a repeatable and growing business model, it’s trivial to raise money and there’s no reason to pick Social Capital over anyone else. The big market opportunity is to fund startups at the very earliest signs of success. When all they have to show is some code and a few Hacker News upvotes or GitHub stars. Someone is going to make YCs returns look weak b…

From my experience, most of it is about connections. I have seen $41 MM thrown at startups like Color and them failing a month later! Why just recently, FileCoin raised tens of millions from VCs, before goong on to raise $200 MM from crypto holders around the world for a product that hasn't even been developed, in a space where MaidSafe and IPFS etc. already exist. How? Because it was touted by CoinList, started by a…

Connections matter mostly before. Once you have a rapidly growing business, everyone is your friend, and “connections” fly in.

Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

#17
post #4

The flaw here is using the wrong metrics. Once a company has found a repeatable and growing business model, it’s trivial to raise money and there’s no reason to pick Social Capital over anyone else. The big market opportunity is to fund startups at the very earliest signs of success. When all they have to show is some code and a few Hacker News upvotes or GitHub stars. Someone is going to make YCs returns look weak b…

so which metrics are the right ones to look at?

They elude to it in these blog posts:

https://medium.com/swlh/diligence-at-social-capital-part-1-a...

https://medium.com/swlh/diligence-at-social-capital-part-2-a...

https://medium.com/@jonathanhsu/diligence-at-social-capital-...

https://medium.com/@jonathanhsu/diligence-at-social-capital-...

https://medium.com/@jonathanhsu/diligence-at-social-capital-...

https://medium.com/swlh/diligence-at-social-capital-epilogue...

Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

#18
It's hard to know what they are actually doing since the blog post doesn't explain what Capital-as-a-service is. But, if this works for them, I bet it is because it increases their deal flow. With this system and their marketing of it they can get more founders to submit company data to them and see companies that are outside their network. It would be much easier to filter through a bunch of business data submitted via a web form rather than going through pitchdecks that founders e-mail them.

Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

#19

It's not really clear from the write up exactly what they're offering... How is this different from any other VC outfit? IndieVC[0] is the only really interesting spin on investing I've seen out there and they open-sourced their terms sheet publicly at launch. [0] http://www.indie.vc/

You just don’t get it. They are disrupting the VC industry with data. It’s an OS not an S. wait maybe you are right. ;)

Re: Capital-As-a-Service: A New Operating System for Early Stage Investing

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post #8
post #4

The flaw here is using the wrong metrics. Once a company has found a repeatable and growing business model, it’s trivial to raise money and there’s no reason to pick Social Capital over anyone else. The big market opportunity is to fund startups at the very earliest signs of success. When all they have to show is some code and a few Hacker News upvotes or GitHub stars. Someone is going to make YCs returns look weak b…

From my experience, most of it is about connections. I have seen $41 MM thrown at startups like Color and them failing a month later! Why just recently, FileCoin raised tens of millions from VCs, before goong on to raise $200 MM from crypto holders around the world for a product that hasn't even been developed, in a space where MaidSafe and IPFS etc. already exist. How? Because it was touted by CoinList, started by a…

Filecoin vc deal was the best imho executed vc play I have seen in a while. for 50m with a discount they were able to sell approx 200m to coin buyers. This not only offset their risk but literally gave the x4 in raw cash infusion in 2 weeks, growing the valuation without any time and this was done all on vc reputation/ name recognition/ and hype building. Very well done...
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