I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows
Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
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Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
#12I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project ( https://nanagram.co ) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to…
Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
#13I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows
Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
#14I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project ( https://nanagram.co ) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to…
Love the idea! Does this ship internationally? Some FAQ/ToS/etc would be good.
We're beta testing the app right now with friends & family and have made our first few deliveries already. The response has been great so far from people's grandparents. They love getting the prints in the mail with the captions to tell the story of the photo on them.
We're going to be exploring international shipping soon. What country does the person you want to send photos to live in?
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Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
#15I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows
Honest question: why? Why would you roll your own buttons, headers, footers, modals, panels, grid system, and alerts, which all respond responsively, when you could just take a framework off the shelf and start being productive immediately?
But for user-facing stuff, designers and PMs want to tweak everything about the interface, and by the time you're done, you've rewritten most of the CSS and you actually spent more effort doing so than had you just written the CSS yourself the first time.
Also, the way you wrote it ends up being a frankenstein-esque collection of style overrides. Zurb foundation is notorious for requiring hyper-specific CSS rules to override their default styles.
Bootstrap has made some progress towards making it more tweakable, but if you're maintaining/customizing an app long-term, you're better off writing your own css for the most part.
Edit: to add to that, the biggest problem that bootstrap solves IMO is a standard grid system, of which there are now many, more composable grid systems to choose from. Grid systems are so basic that its probably fine to pull one from the shelf, but with flexbox its really not that hard to write your own anyway.
Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
#16I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows
It depends if it's a project that is going to grow. For so many things Bootstrap does so much for so little effort. I use it any time I need to spin something up quickly, prototype an idea, put an internal page together. Bootstrap is a tool for making a page where you don't care how it looks look good.
Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
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Love the idea! Does this ship internationally? Some FAQ/ToS/etc would be good.
Thanks! And good point on the FAQs + TOS. Will add them to the to-do list. We're beta testing the app right now with friends & family and have made our first few deliveries already. The response has been great so far from people's grandparents. They love getting the prints in the mail with the captions to tell the story of the photo on them. We're going to be exploring international shipping soon. What country does t…
Something like this also needs the ability to delay shipments - old people are more likely to be admitted to hospitals or similar.
Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
#18I've been using the Bootstrap 4 beta for a couple weeks building a side project ( https://nanagram.co ) and I must say, it's been great to use. The built in utilities for responsive views and spacing are especially useful. Made optimizing the homepage for multiple screen sizes super fast and not painful at all. The Beta 1 had pretty good documentation and seemed pretty mature as well. Looking forward to upgrading to…
Edit: I see you replied to someone else and I cannot tell if the service is actually live (as in my card is going to be charged and photos are going to ship).
Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
#19I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows
If I'm making a content-website (where the "killer app" is the content and not presentation) I use bootstrap - its definitely cheaper than a web designer.
Re: Bootstrap 4 Beta 2
#20I know I am going to be downvoted so hard, but really it's very easy to build you own css these days, css frameworks look an easy solution for beginning your project but they become a burden gradually as your project grows
For the projects Bootstrap was designed for, the choice isn't between Bootstrap and a professionally designed custom theme; the choice is between Bootstrap and a white background with all text in Times New Roman 16 pt.