Introducing Surface Book 2 • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by bpicolo » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:22 PM UTC

kanishkdudeja wrote: post #8

The i5 variant comes with just 8 GB RAM. Would have considered if they had given an option for 16 GB RAM. Being a developer, 8 GB seems tight these days! 15-inch 16 GB variant comes with i7 but the price is a little too steep (starts from 2500 USD)

Where do you see that the i5 doesn't support 16GB? The specs list on microsoft.com seem to just say "i5 or i7, 8GB or 16GB RAM"

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by trothamel » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:22 PM UTC

A bit of headline fail there:

"Introducing Surface Book 2, the most powerful Surface Book ever"

Out of the two of them so far?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by TheCoreh » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:23 PM UTC

kanishkdudeja wrote: post #8

The i5 variant comes with just 8 GB RAM. Would have considered if they had given an option for 16 GB RAM. Being a developer, 8 GB seems tight these days! 15-inch 16 GB variant comes with i7 but the price is a little too steep (starts from 2500 USD)

To be fair, if you're developer, you'll probably also want an i7 (since a lot of compilation tasks are highly parallel and the extra cores will help a lot)

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by kanishkdudeja » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:23 PM UTC

bpicolo wrote: post #11

kanishkdudeja wrote: post #8

The i5 variant comes with just 8 GB RAM. Would have considered if they had given an option for 16 GB RAM. Being a developer, 8 GB seems tight these days! 15-inch 16 GB variant comes with i7 but the price is a little too steep (starts from 2500 USD)

Where do you see that the i5 doesn't support 16GB? The specs list on microsoft.com seem to just say "i5 or i7, 8GB or 16GB RAM"

Check the bottom section of this page: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book...

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by needz » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:23 PM UTC

fredley wrote: post #6

fhood wrote: post #3

Why does every single high end laptop need to look exactly like a macbook? I want anybody who doesn't believe me to google up a picture of one next to the other.

This... looks nothing like a macbook. It's got a matte metallic frame and a black bezel, but that's about where the similarities end as far as it looks to me.

Are we looking at the same thing? It looks incredibly similar to Macbooks.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by rhexs » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:23 PM UTC

GEBBL wrote: post #4

Is anyone excited?

Well, I bought the Surface Book 1 and returned it after a month of it barely working. So no, not really.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by rayiner » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:23 PM UTC

The pricing is brutal.[1] About $100-$300 more than the 15" Macbook Pro with the same amount of storage. The base model is particularly shameful, with only 8GB of RAM. The base MBP is 16GB for $100 less. You can't configure the RAM amount, so $2,900 is the cheapest 15" model with 16GB.

[1] Or perhaps it's more that the configuration options are really inflexible, with every configuration having the highest-end CPU and GPU.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by pg_is_a_butt » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:24 PM UTC

Does is still feature the Intel Management Engine backdoor for government spying, even while powered off?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by Rhapso » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:24 PM UTC

trothamel wrote: post #12

A bit of headline fail there: "Introducing Surface Book 2, the most powerful Surface Book ever" Out of the two of them so far?

No it is a prophecy: The rest of them will be less powerful.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by kanishkdudeja » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 2:24 PM UTC

TheCoreh wrote: post #13

kanishkdudeja wrote: post #8

The i5 variant comes with just 8 GB RAM. Would have considered if they had given an option for 16 GB RAM. Being a developer, 8 GB seems tight these days! 15-inch 16 GB variant comes with i7 but the price is a little too steep (starts from 2500 USD)

To be fair, if you're developer, you'll probably also want an i7 (since a lot of compilation tasks are highly parallel and the extra cores will help a lot)

That's right. But the i7 15-inch line starts from 2500 USD. I think lots of developers won't be able to afford at that price point.