Bitbucket Down - Major Outage • Hacker News Board

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#11

Post by ericfrederich » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:27 PM UTC

I've said it before and I'll say it again... It makes zero sense to centralize something that was meant to be decentralized.

We need issues, pull requests, comments, milestones, wiki, etc... all to be decentralized. No reason this stuff cannot be modeled using existing Git objects.

GitHub, GitLab and BitBucket are extremely similar. Almost 100% overlap, you could use the lowest common denominator between the 3 and you'd still have 95% of the features.

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#12

Post by quuquuquu » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:27 PM UTC

qualitytime wrote: post #6

First, my HDMI port blows up and have to work on a small laptop screen. And now I can't access my repositories.. Not happy.

This is why it is important to keep backups of backups ^.^

EDIT: I upvoted you twice, HN just loves to downvote anything ;)

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#13

Post by fsniper » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:27 PM UTC

qualitytime wrote: post #6

First, my HDMI port blows up and have to work on a small laptop screen. And now I can't access my repositories.. Not happy.

I'll up the ante, there is a hurricane in Ireland.

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#14

Post by exikyut » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:27 PM UTC

Often there's no preservation of past failure states so people can see (for whatever reason) what the failure looked like. Here's what https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef/ (a totally random repository that was in my history) looks right now: http://archive.is/g0I6O

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#15

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:31 PM UTC

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Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#16

Post by exikyut » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:32 PM UTC

ericfrederich wrote: post #11

I've said it before and I'll say it again... It makes zero sense to centralize something that was meant to be decentralized. We need issues, pull requests, comments, milestones, wiki, etc... all to be decentralized. No reason this stuff cannot be modeled using existing Git objects. GitHub, GitLab and BitBucket are extremely similar. Almost 100% overlap, you could use the lowest common denominator between the 3 and yo…

1. Businesses need a "halp everything is on fire" button that costs them $1000 a second but will fix EVERY issue, (virtually) guaranteed by SLA. Ultimately that is what these orgs provide; the hosting is kind of almost secondary to that.

2. Actually building real-world implementations of "Issues, pull requests, comments, milestones, wiki, etc..." requires top-tier engineer[ing] time and energy to build and maintain. The current Git-on-steroids-aaS approach provides a very successful way to fund that undeniable cost.

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#17

Post by hobofan » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:32 PM UTC

ericfrederich wrote: post #11

I've said it before and I'll say it again... It makes zero sense to centralize something that was meant to be decentralized. We need issues, pull requests, comments, milestones, wiki, etc... all to be decentralized. No reason this stuff cannot be modeled using existing Git objects. GitHub, GitLab and BitBucket are extremely similar. Almost 100% overlap, you could use the lowest common denominator between the 3 and yo…

> No reason this stuff cannot be modeled using existing Git objects.

That's the easy part.

The hard part is discovery and keeping stuff like teams and moderation when you decentralize it. Advancements in Blockchain-tech, IPFS and similar will make this viable soonish-ly, but I think we are not quite there yet from a technological standpoint.

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#18

Post by shakna » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:32 PM UTC

ericfrederich wrote: post #11

I've said it before and I'll say it again... It makes zero sense to centralize something that was meant to be decentralized. We need issues, pull requests, comments, milestones, wiki, etc... all to be decentralized. No reason this stuff cannot be modeled using existing Git objects. GitHub, GitLab and BitBucket are extremely similar. Almost 100% overlap, you could use the lowest common denominator between the 3 and yo…

Sounds like you might like Fossil. [0]

I don't see git reaching beyond what it does right now, but a few others do, though they all involve a learning curve.

[0] https://www.fossil-scm.org

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#19

Post by rsp1984 » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:32 PM UTC

Great. I need to push some stuff real soon now. In the last 12 months Bitbucket had an uncomfortably high number of issues. But whenever I think about moving our company code to GitLab or GitHub I envision going into a world of pain with my eng. team.

Has anyone got some advice for pain-free migration to GitLab or GitHub?

Re: Bitbucket Down - Major Outage

#20

Post by LeifCarrotson » Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 1:33 PM UTC

exikyut wrote: post #5

rjralgar wrote: post #4

"Minor*"

I can't access bitbucket.org, so... Edit: / works, repos don't

What does work is

    git clone https://username@bitbucket.org/organization/repo.git

so you can probably still get by. Just the website is down.