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How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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Re: How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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Agreed. It'd be akin to saying "hola amigo" to an American scientist.

Are you agreeing with Amir or Cacti? "Hola amigo" is an expression that many US Americans understand and do occasionally use to greet one another.

I think that answers your question. He's just drawing a more familiar parallel.

Re: How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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I stopped reading after > To show his sincerity and goodwill, the agent put his hand over his heart. “Salam habibi,” he said. Either the reporter, or the CIA hasn't done their research. Habibi is Arabic, and that's not how Iranian greet each other, especially if they want to show sincerity and goodwill.

Agreed. It'd be akin to saying "hola amigo" to an American scientist.

Actually my fellow comrade, people say that kind of stuff fairly often.

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You're sharing a Russia Today article?

RT used to be half-way decent. Some might argue that they've turned up the agitprop dial a bit recently.

RT has always been a Russia propaganda arm. They were never decent. It's interesting to read every once in a while, but only to see Kremlin talking points.

Re: How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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Agreed. It'd be akin to saying "hola amigo" to an American scientist.

Are you agreeing with Amir or Cacti? "Hola amigo" is an expression that many US Americans understand and do occasionally use to greet one another.

With Amir.

Given the context of an intelligence officer knocking on an unfamiliar person's hotel room door unexpected and asking them to defect, I think "salaam habibi" would strike most Farsi speakers as a bizarre and malapropos greeting.

"Hola amigo. I’m from the CIA, and I want you to board a plane with me to the United States."

I see it as an indicator of careless journalism that the author is citing an unnamed source "familiar on the matter" about a 10-year-old conversation that he seems not to have transcribed into the right language. I put it into the same category of people who ask what part of Mexico the Puerto Ricans are from.

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You're sharing a Russia Today article?

RT used to be half-way decent. Some might argue that they've turned up the agitprop dial a bit recently.

RT was specifically created by the Russian government to influence foreigners.

Re: How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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Are you kidding? CIA never makes mistakes! They're the greatest, flawless intelligence agency in the world! https://www.rt.com/news/fsb-detain-cia-agent-253/

You're sharing a Russia Today article?

It's a brand new account with negative karma and two comments, both pro-Russian in context.

Either it's somebody's sock puppet account or someone new who doesn't understand that HN really is different from Reddit and a higher level of intellectual discourse works much better here.

Re: How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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Are you agreeing with Amir or Cacti? "Hola amigo" is an expression that many US Americans understand and do occasionally use to greet one another.

With Amir. Given the context of an intelligence officer knocking on an unfamiliar person's hotel room door unexpected and asking them to defect, I think "salaam habibi" would strike most Farsi speakers as a bizarre and malapropos greeting. "Hola amigo. I’m from the CIA, and I want you to board a plane with me to the United States." I see it as an indicator of careless journalism that the author is citing an unnamed s…

I get what you're saying, but "hola amigo" is a really bad example of it. There are 40 million Spanish speakers in the US and tens of millions more use Spanish phrases routinely as a personality quirk. "Hola" and "amigo" are both words that I'd expect most Americans to understand, and I wouldn't bat an eye if a CIA agent greeted my in that way, assuming the context wasn't too formal.

Maybe a better example would be... well, if they put their hand over their heart and said "salaam habibi" to an American scientist.

Re: How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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Agreed. It'd be akin to saying "hola amigo" to an American scientist.

Are you agreeing with Amir or Cacti? "Hola amigo" is an expression that many US Americans understand and do occasionally use to greet one another.

>"Hola amigo" is an expression that many US Americans understand and do occasionally use to greet one another

I suppose that depends on your definition of "US Americans".

Re: How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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Are you agreeing with Amir or Cacti? "Hola amigo" is an expression that many US Americans understand and do occasionally use to greet one another.

>"Hola amigo" is an expression that many US Americans understand and do occasionally use to greet one another I suppose that depends on your definition of "US Americans".

Americans that live in the US? How many valid definitions are there?

Re: How the CIA Staged Sham Academic Conferences to Thwart Iran’s Nuclear Program

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With Amir. Given the context of an intelligence officer knocking on an unfamiliar person's hotel room door unexpected and asking them to defect, I think "salaam habibi" would strike most Farsi speakers as a bizarre and malapropos greeting. "Hola amigo. I’m from the CIA, and I want you to board a plane with me to the United States." I see it as an indicator of careless journalism that the author is citing an unnamed s…

I get what you're saying, but "hola amigo" is a really bad example of it. There are 40 million Spanish speakers in the US and tens of millions more use Spanish phrases routinely as a personality quirk. "Hola" and "amigo" are both words that I'd expect most Americans to understand, and I wouldn't bat an eye if a CIA agent greeted my in that way, assuming the context wasn't too formal. Maybe a better example would be..…

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