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Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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Re: Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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This isn't surprising, really. Windows Phone has been poorly for a long time. While I understand Microsoft's efforts at trying to approach the mobile space, it does seem that it's often at the expense of their core product - very similar to how Google nearly crippled their core offering by integrating everything with Google+. I'm impressed that despite all of this, though, they've managed to keep desktop dominance, e…

>I'm impressed that despite all of this, though, they've managed to keep desktop dominance, even with the rise of of Chromebooks and Macbooks.

It's simple: Chromebooks are crippled by the mostly-web concept and Macbooks only cater to (a part of) the more affluent end of the market.

Re: Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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Well Windows phone was just different. And being different does not always mean being the best. Windows on mobile should have been more modular when it came to looks. Enforcing tiles on mobile when people were used to traditional icons on screen was a terrible decision. I am not going to write about the other issues like incompatibilities , lack of apps and other chicken and egg problems.

You can experiment when you have the user base and even then you need to be super careful.

Re: Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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This isn't surprising, really. Windows Phone has been poorly for a long time. While I understand Microsoft's efforts at trying to approach the mobile space, it does seem that it's often at the expense of their core product - very similar to how Google nearly crippled their core offering by integrating everything with Google+. I'm impressed that despite all of this, though, they've managed to keep desktop dominance, e…

Windows is extremely well sunk into the enterprise market, and neither Linux nor Mac are at all focusing sufficiently on it to displace them. Linux isn't user friendly enough, and Mac's support policy is a complete no go for enterprise.

Every enterprise I have worked at had both linux and mac available to developers. Is this not your experience? You seem to present as truth the opposite of what I have lived.

Re: Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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Sad news. I have a Nokia Windows 8.1 phone. Battery life is excellent for a smart phone. Build quality is great including quality of camera. Apps are the only missing feature. Sad all the expertise Nokia built up over the years has come to nought.

I'm also still using my Lumia 925 as my main phone. And despite this news I'm still thinking about buying a newer one, second hand. Every time I use android or IOS I miss tiles, pinning, the super clean settings

Re: Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows is extremely well sunk into the enterprise market, and neither Linux nor Mac are at all focusing sufficiently on it to displace them. Linux isn't user friendly enough, and Mac's support policy is a complete no go for enterprise.

Every enterprise I have worked at had both linux and mac available to developers. Is this not your experience? You seem to present as truth the opposite of what I have lived.

Developers make a very small percentage of overall enterprise market.

Re: Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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Quite sad how WinDev torpedo the WP7 efforts with the WP reboots (WP 8, WP 8.1, UWP).

For quite some time WP was the best developer experience between iOS, Android and WP, regarding tooling and available SDK programming languages.

Re: Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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I still remember one of the first HTC phones which had a mobile version of I think windows xp. The phone came with a stylus and the windows felt like a miniaturized version of desktop. This improved significantly in the Lumia series, the UI was good and easy to use. But by then the app ecosystem had already built strongly around android and ios so there was not much traction. I feel microsoft lost the ecosystem battle rather than OS. With too big app stores, the developers did not have much appetite for supporting another ecosystem which was very small.

Re: Microsoft gives up on Windows 10 Mobile

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows is extremely well sunk into the enterprise market, and neither Linux nor Mac are at all focusing sufficiently on it to displace them. Linux isn't user friendly enough, and Mac's support policy is a complete no go for enterprise.

Every enterprise I have worked at had both linux and mac available to developers. Is this not your experience? You seem to present as truth the opposite of what I have lived.

In my (bigcorp) experience, its all windows all the way with macs available only to developers who have a need (iOS dev usually).

And don’t forget that developers are a tiny minority of employees.

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