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Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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Sometimes I wonder if the tech industry should adopt the orchestral model of auditions: prevent the interviewers from seeing the candidate, knowing their name, or hearing their voice. Judge them entirely on their code and text responses.

Sure something like this would probably result in complaints about "hiring for culture fit," but isn't someone who provides the correct answers and code a culture fit in the first place?

Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

#12
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

We're tired of obsessing about race.

We're tired of having accusations of racism, sexism, whatever-the-next-trendy-ism crammed down our throats at every opportunity.

The reality is, urban black (and to a similar extent latino) CULTURE does not value education. Until that changes, do not expect to see highly educated and skilled blacks and latinos bounding through the hiring process. Just ask the asians about minority discrimination - they outperform everyone and are openly penalized for it.

CONTENT OF CHARACTER. NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SKIN COLOR.

Go ahead and delete this comment, it's not going to change reality.

Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

#13
post #8

Unsurprising. I tell all of my minorities friends to remove their pictures from LinkedIn and use American sounding names. The increase in callbacks always shocks me. You can do this experiment in reverse yourself if you already have an American sounding name. Unfortunately the real solution, anonymity, will probably never be adopted because there are groups who benefit from being identified. There's way too much many…

> inorities friends to remove their pictures from LinkedIn and use American sounding names. i assume minorities here doesn't include Indians.

When I say minority I mean anyone who doesn't have a European or American sounding name. Even white people with "strange names" benefit.

Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." We're tired of obsessing about race. We're tired of having accusations of racism, sexism, whatever-the-next-trendy-ism crammed down our throats at every opportunity. The reality is, urban black (and to a similar extent latino) CULTURE does not valu…

There's plenty of evidence that people care about skin color, irregardless of race. Are you serious?

Talking about Asians is a red herring. Asians actually suffer similarly to blacks once you look at Asians other than eastern ones (e.g. Japanese, Korean).

The idea that Asians are a model minority is simply propaganda used to victim blame Hispanics and Blacks as well as create a division between them. This also happened between low income whites and blacks. I encourage you to do some research.

TLDR: comparing Asians with blacks is literally like comparing apples with oranges.

Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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post #14

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." We're tired of obsessing about race. We're tired of having accusations of racism, sexism, whatever-the-next-trendy-ism crammed down our throats at every opportunity. The reality is, urban black (and to a similar extent latino) CULTURE does not valu…

There's plenty of evidence that people care about skin color, irregardless of race. Are you serious? Talking about Asians is a red herring. Asians actually suffer similarly to blacks once you look at Asians other than eastern ones (e.g. Japanese, Korean). The idea that Asians are a model minority is simply propaganda used to victim blame Hispanics and Blacks as well as create a division between them. This also happen…

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Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> inorities friends to remove their pictures from LinkedIn and use American sounding names. i assume minorities here doesn't include Indians.

When I say minority I mean anyone who doesn't have a European or American sounding name. Even white people with "strange names" benefit.

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Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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Time for today's most incendiary post. (; I think feelings on this are going to depend on whether you consider a silicon valley job as more "outcome" or "opportunity." I'd say making sure that black/latino people can obtain these jobs is just as important as making sure they have equal opportunity to attend a good college or good highschool. That puts me in a bit of a predicament though because I come to the conclusi…

But... the article says Asians are the most likely to be hired and least likely to be promoted so then are they more qualified or not?

You know I think this is actually a good thing. I’ve been working as a dev for 12 years but after interviewing with tech companies more recently I’m done. I’m doing my own thing. The ‘technical interviews’ made sure of that, I presumably suck at them but I can’t be sure because no constructive feedback. Start your own thing, it will be more rewarding, I’ve learned more in 9 years of side projects than I ever did at the job and recently it’s really paying off. Oh yeah, there is no engineer shortage and there never has been, pay people decent and don’t be raise the bar to the point it’s in the clouds and you’ll see there are earnest, keen hardworking people eager and ready. Oh and I don’t know, may be invest in people a little instead too, people are life long learners, they have potential.

Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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post #7

Every underrepresented group represents an opportunity to start a company, hire some great people from that group, and succeed together. A single company, perhaps one you start this year, can make a huge impact. YC funding applications are due today. https://www.ycombinator.com/apply

What this means is that someone should start a company and become completely racist about who they hire.

Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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post #8

Unsurprising. I tell all of my minorities friends to remove their pictures from LinkedIn and use American sounding names. The increase in callbacks always shocks me. You can do this experiment in reverse yourself if you already have an American sounding name. Unfortunately the real solution, anonymity, will probably never be adopted because there are groups who benefit from being identified. There's way too much many…

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Re: Black and Latino representation in Silicon Valley has declined, study shows

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Sometimes I wonder if the tech industry should adopt the orchestral model of auditions: prevent the interviewers from seeing the candidate, knowing their name, or hearing their voice. Judge them entirely on their code and text responses. Sure something like this would probably result in complaints about "hiring for culture fit," but isn't someone who provides the correct answers and code a culture fit in the first pl…

i did one of these interviews at a bank. I was asked to sit behind curtain and answer questions . It felt totally weird. you are right they should have masked out my voice too.
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