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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#11
I so wanted to use the new Firefox and switch from safari. I searched and was excited to learn there was an extension for integration with keychain on mac only to learn that it was no longer supported :(

I understand the push behind web extensions but I don't think there will ever be a keychain integration addon now.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #2

More info about Firefox Quantum (aka Firefox 57) here: https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/quantum/ (Also appears to feature an updated logo.)

This article on their CSS engine was a great read. It's done by Lin Clark as a series of graphics, making it easy to follow.

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/08/inside-a-super-fast-css-en...

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#13

Running Safari 11 on High Sierra and got a 90 on the speedometer 2.0 test referenced. Why are they bragging about a 66? For reference, ran the test with Firefox Quantum on the same machine and got a 68.

Their banner graphic says that pre-Quantum Firefox scored 32 runs per minute, so I think it's quite the improvement.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #10

Couldn't the minor speed differences in the comparison video [1] in the post be attributed to the variable latencies of server responses? Or is that accounted for somehow? [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIywpvHewc0

FWIW, this is the tool they used: https://github.com/WPO-Foundation/webpagetest

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#15

I just wish they would have filled in more missing APIs before mandating web extensions. For example there is no way to do a gestures extension that doesn't rely on buggy DOM injection.

I guess the reasoning is that there's still an Extended Support Release that is supported for quite a while still, which still supports the extension mechanism. If you really still need a specific extension, you can keep using that - and then once there's a new ESR, hopefully the extension will be available.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #11

I so wanted to use the new Firefox and switch from safari. I searched and was excited to learn there was an extension for integration with keychain on mac only to learn that it was no longer supported :( I understand the push behind web extensions but I don't think there will ever be a keychain integration addon now.

You could always export from keychain to another password manager and use that.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

#18
post #8

I just wish they would have filled in more missing APIs before mandating web extensions. For example there is no way to do a gestures extension that doesn't rely on buggy DOM injection.

Yes, it's a real shame that it seems like they don't even care about extensions anymore, and therefore forces me to stay on the older versions and miss out on the new and welcome improvements. I'd be more ok with their switch to web extensions if they had included more powerful API:s, even if they're not available in other browsers. My developer edition recently got upgraded to 57, and Greasemonkey stopped working. R…

If they hadn't deprecated the old extensions yet, the newest version would be pretty much the same as using the old version. This way, some people who don't rely on those extensions (I believe half of the users don't even run an extension at all?) can benefit from those improvements now, and you'll be able to do so later.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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post #16

I've been trying out the nightly versions of 57 and it's really fast. Would recommend people try out the Beta.

Is Tree Style Tab working on it? I've disabled updates until further notice.

It mostly does now, I think: https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224
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