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Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Post by gradstudent »

I have a PhD in AI and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what's being announced here. Like, check this out:

> Building on advanced research in program synthesis (PROSE) and data cleaning, we have created a data wrangling experience (Figure 1) that drastically reduces the time that data scientists have to spend in transforming data for machine learning.

Huh?

> Figure 1: AI-powered data wrangling in the workbench learns from examples and automatically synthesizes code for data transformations using program synthesis technology.

What?

> Models can be containerized in Docker and deployed to network edge devices, allowing models to score closer to the event and in real-time. Local docker deployments can be used for debugging, while for scaled out production serving of AI, these containers can be managed with Kubernetes, using Azure Container Services.

English, Microsoft. Do you speak it?

Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

#12

Post by unmole »

contextfree wrote: post #10
badminton1 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people doing AI/ML right now are not using Windows. By asking them to move to Visual Studio you are implicitly asking them to move to Windows. Only by doing that you are making it extremely difficult to adopt such technology.

vscode runs on Windows, Mac and Linux

VS and vscode are two entirely different projects.

Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Post by contextfree »

unmole wrote: post #12
contextfree wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

vscode runs on Windows, Mac and Linux

VS and vscode are two entirely different projects.

The product we're talking about is Visual Studio Code Tools for AI; "full" Visual Studio IDE isn't even mentioned or shown in the announcement article

Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Post by Top19 »

Currently reading the work of Hubert Dreyfus. Dreyfus was widely ridiculed in the 60’s and the 80’s for coming out against AI simply on the grounds that it wouldn’t work, but for those decades at least he was certainly right as it turned out. Reading his book “The Power of Human Intuition and Expertise in the Era of the Computer” from 1983 is haunting and eerily sounds a lot like today.

>“AI entrepreneurs and researchers will climb a tree, sometimes even a tall one, and then tell you they’ve got all the workings of a space program”

Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Post by nohat »

gradstudent wrote: post #11

I have a PhD in AI and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what's being announced here. Like, check this out: > Building on advanced research in program synthesis (PROSE) and data cleaning, we have created a data wrangling experience (Figure 1) that drastically reduces the time that data scientists have to spend in transforming data for machine learning. Huh? > Figure 1: AI-powered data wrangling in the workbench…

Honestly 'data wrangling' is indeed an unfortunately large part of ML work, so I'm interested. I have wondered how tractable making a data transformer that simply shaped and filtered the data based on example and a few constraints would be. Remains to be seen how good a job this has done.

Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Post by namlem »

badminton1 wrote: post #6
zghst wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Integration into VS is a huge value add, by doing so MS guarantees that VS becomes the most easy platform to do ML development in

Many people doing AI/ML right now are not using Windows. By asking them to move to Visual Studio you are implicitly asking them to move to Windows. Only by doing that you are making it extremely difficult to adopt such technology.

It doesn't matter. MS has Linux VMs on Azure. Businesses love Azure, and MS is greatly investing in providing hardware for ML.

Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Post by intended »

gradstudent wrote: post #11

I have a PhD in AI and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what's being announced here. Like, check this out: > Building on advanced research in program synthesis (PROSE) and data cleaning, we have created a data wrangling experience (Figure 1) that drastically reduces the time that data scientists have to spend in transforming data for machine learning. Huh? > Figure 1: AI-powered data wrangling in the workbench…

"WE have added links to azure in excel". "Finance types married to bloomberg terminals, rejoice for you may now feel secure in excel once again"

Well, thats my tongue in cheek summary of the whole thing.

Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Post by smortaz »

zghst wrote: post #4
badminton1 wrote: post #2

MS is heavily investing on AI because they missed the opportunity of being #1 on the web and on mobile. However if you go back some decades you will see that Microsoft did have smartphones, before the iPhone, just they weren't as appealing as a product. This time around I predict it will be the same. When you look at the product (e.g: Visual Studio tools for AI) it looks very featured but not very organized... Micros…

Integration into VS is a huge value add, by doing so MS guarantees that VS becomes the most easy platform to do ML development in

Note that the integration is in VS Code, the lightweight Editor++ which is cross-platform. In general most of the AI/ML related work has been & will likely be cross-plat.

[disclaimer - microsoft]

Re: Announcing tools for the AI-driven digital transformation

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Post by killjoywashere »

gradstudent wrote: post #11

I have a PhD in AI and I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what's being announced here. Like, check this out: > Building on advanced research in program synthesis (PROSE) and data cleaning, we have created a data wrangling experience (Figure 1) that drastically reduces the time that data scientists have to spend in transforming data for machine learning. Huh? > Figure 1: AI-powered data wrangling in the workbench…

I'm reasonably certain that a lot of this is sales jargon. They'll point enterprise CIOs with degrees in music to this site and they'll see a lot of buzzwords and buy.
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