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Request for Education Startups

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Re: Request for Education Startups

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I would love feedback on my project BlockSchool from anyone who is interested in ed-tech! BlockSchool is an online coding school for kids ages 6 to 13. We hire teachers from top colleges and companies like Stanford and Facebook, and connect them with students who don't have easy access to high-quality instruction. Our classes are conducted via video chat in a fun 3D block-based world where everything can be controlle…

I know you (and many people in HN) do not want to think about this, but have you considered the legal liability of exposing a bunch of underage children to a group of adults under minimal/non-existent oversight? Adults taken from a demography that's famous for their low social skills and awareness, not to mention empathy.

It does not have to be just sexual predators (which is probably the worst case scenario, although still on the table), but anything that could offend the parents, or any activist with an axe to grind, really. I teach a high school programming class these days, and I had to change my class plan which included the "99 bottles of beer" classic example because it is against school policy to encourage alcohol consumption in any form.

You may argue whether this was justified or not, but this is the state of affairs already set in place, and you are an outsider of this industry. Even if you are right, the energy and resources devoted to fight off this conflict can derail your startup if not properly planned for and prevented.

Re: Request for Education Startups

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May I point out - to YC and others interested in the space - their is a fairly large market for continuing education. Nurses, accountants, lawyers, and lots of other industries require practitioners keep up to date and take courses throughout their professional career. Perhaps their are not enough students to warrant a massive big name startup, but there are definitely enough students for a reasonable sized businesse…

In fact, there is a huge cottage industry of exactly this in at least the software engineering world. Several companies with enough revenue to make any seed-stage startup sneeze.

Making tens of thousands of dollars for a 2 day workshop/corporatetraining is not unheard of. No millions of dollars from VCs required.

Re: Request for Education Startups

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I know it doesn't fall neatly into any of those categories, but I'd love some feedback on my idea:

I want to create an organization that is essentially a 6 week retreat for students before they begin college. Selecting the best applicants possible, they will go through rigorous training to become their most successful selves, covering Academics, Social life, Health, and Lifestyle topics. Elements of secrecy will help it's applicant pool, I was heavily inspired by the Bohemian Club.

Long term, the alumni network itself will more than make up for the cost, in turn making the applicant pool stronger and stronger.

It's an aggressive plan, and requires years of building up from the ground. But it's my dream to make it happen.

Re: Request for Education Startups

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I would like something that increases parental involvement or at least oversight of their kids. 1:1s and close contact with your manager or team in problem solving is invaluable. What does that mean in the context of a classroom? Is it valuable? Teachers probably have 120 kids at some level so it may not scale.. And I think it's to early or weird to have kids participate in a stand up but an app to help parents under…

Canvas/Schoology/Others provide parents with the opportunity to monitor student assignments and grades.

The problem with parental involvement is (usually) the desire to participate rather than opportunity.

Re: Request for Education Startups

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I would love feedback on my project BlockSchool from anyone who is interested in ed-tech! BlockSchool is an online coding school for kids ages 6 to 13. We hire teachers from top colleges and companies like Stanford and Facebook, and connect them with students who don't have easy access to high-quality instruction. Our classes are conducted via video chat in a fun 3D block-based world where everything can be controlle…

I am running a startup that is a market place, http://greensprout.co for afterschool programs and summer camp providers (limited to Bay area). Naturally I am interested in this space. As a Korean, it is great to see startups working from Korea. The coding school is getting popular. So, it is a good place to start. But, there are many varieties. This seems to me like a tutoring service for computer programming. As you…

How old is your child? Has he/she done programming before? We strongly believe any beginner should start with visual programming first. Happy to share all the reasons with you if you're interested.

Here's a short clip of a class (it's also on our website): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4xaiZrbD_Y

Re: Request for Education Startups

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TeachBay (for grade schools) - Parents bid in an auction for seats in a teacher's classroom at the beginning of the school year, instead of having the principal assign students to teachers. This will reward the good teachers, punish the bad ones, and give everyone an incentive to do better.

Assuming parents even have adequate information to make good choices, this seems like a surefire way to create wildly unbalanced classes. Giving difficult students to a bad teacher doesn't "punish" the bad teacher - it just creates a dysfunctional learning environment for the students who need it most.

I would seriously question the ethical resolve of my kid's school if they used such a system.

Re: Request for Education Startups

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A professional football player starts playing at the age of 4-5, a professional dancer starts practicing right from childhood, but I see most people only get interested in code when they need a job and they start fearing. Our education system should introduce problem solving and coding right from primary classes, teachers should be trained exclusively for these, and the big G, F and others should collaborate with government/NGOs to produce better curriculum and teachers.

Re: Request for Education Startups

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Oh hey! We're one of the companies on this list :)

We went through IK12 (now a part of YC, same people) and it was the single best decision we ever made for Kodable. Education companies have some pretty unique problems, and it is almost guaranteed that the partners will have seen it before, know how to handle it, or at least be able to connect you with someone that has. At this point I think that YC/IK12 companies have a presence in pretty much every school in the USA and most countries around the world, so the network of edtech startups you get access to is just incredible.

Edtech startups can be really hard, but this is one of the few things you can do that will actually make it just a little bit easier. If you have any questions please feel free to reach out - Jon at Kodable dot com

Re: Request for Education Startups

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A professional football player starts playing at the age of 4-5, a professional dancer starts practicing right from childhood, but I see most people only get interested in code when they need a job and they start fearing. Our education system should introduce problem solving and coding right from primary classes, teachers should be trained exclusively for these, and the big G, F and others should collaborate with gov…

Disagree. Coding is one of hundreds of skills that can lead to a good career, and coding is absolutely not for everyone.

Football/dance are extra-curriculars, I am all for coding being an option early on (high school?) but not anytime before then. If a kid shows an interest in coding, they'll find a way. And parents nowadays are more aware of it as a viable option

Even if this seems worth it anyway, a teacher "trained" in coding is not a programmer I would trust to teach my kids coding, and hiring CS majors would be monumentally too expensive. At the end of the day it's not practical.

Re: Request for Education Startups

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I work on the policy side of digitalisation. Looking at the things listed in the YC call this all doesn't seem too much line the things that are really needed. Here some major issues that education (thinking here mainly about schools but this covers all sectors. And about developed counties other than the US, which has a strange, immensely commercialised education) faces : - cost (depending on the country education can be 3-8% of GDP), most of which is salary - equity - even in the best of countries kids with the right parents fare much better - changing demographics - massive increases (including migrants but also due to housing cycles etc) in some areas while in some villages a school might end with 6 students, all at different ages. - how to truly personalise learning (without kids being on devices all day or teachers having to insert massive amounts of data) - teacher training in subject matter, technical skills and pedagogies, while time and resources are limited - lack of good teachers (often due to pay...) - relevance of learning content and methods - improving assessment - lack of time for teachers (choose resources, plan lessons, learn new rules /curricula, do a lot of admin,... -measuring impact of new policy /tools /... (issues are scale, the direct cause-effect link, worry about too much /instructive tracking, etc)

I think for none of these there are any good solutions out there short of throwing money at the system, which few places can /want to do. For anything to find actual uptake in education it needs to be timely, cost-effective, easy to train /use, respect very specific laws, and tested /proven in a real setting.

There are huge concerns about issues such as vendor lock-in. And looking at some of the proposals listed, there are things that seem crazy /near-evil, eg the suggestion to give a system free to schools but let parents pay.

This seems like a rather negative post, but I just mean to give a bit of perspective. Education is complex, deeply personal, so emotional, immensely important, shapes and determines society and our common future. There is a massive amount of both idealism and frustration on the part of the people involved (especially teachers) . Most have experienced a dozen broken tech promises and been covered in advertising leaflets of questionable commercial providers.

All that ends with either the same pretty much evil players dominating this complex market (everyone in education hates Pearson but few can avoid using some of their products as they know how to play the system, including the funding models and rules ), or with an increased influx of highly commercial tech players (Google, Microsoft, Apple,) which don't understand/care for the aims of education and just see a massive market and an opportunity to train the next generation of users on their systems.

Maybe you'll have some ideas... :-)

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