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Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by humblebee » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:38 PM UTC

faitswulff wrote: post #4

I wish there was a link to the comments. Oftentimes they're the first (and last) place I go.

> Slowly over time I noticed that I begun spending more time in the comment sections, and less time opening links. To cut a short boring story shorter, that trend continued into 2017. I am now at the stage where I very rarely open the links, I simply open the comments and am able to deduce the gist of the link through the unfolding arguments.

http://tomspeak.co.uk/posts/quiet-hacker-news

The point appears to be not to have the comments.

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by faizshah » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:39 PM UTC

Why does it seem easier to scan the links on the front page of reddit than on HN?

Often when I'm looking to upvote a link I just clicked on HN I will scan through all the links but miss the one I'm looking for. Is it the contrast and boldness of the titles that makes reddit better in this regard?

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by craftyguy » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:41 PM UTC

jack9 wrote: post #8

unkown-unknowns wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, are you being facetious or did you not catch on to the fact that the comments not being included is what makes it "quiet HN"?

Even after your comment, I do not make that connection. If that was the intent, it fails...e.g, Why not duplicate the site faithfully and just eliminate the comment links? It succeeds in being 'quiet' (less noisy) in design.

I think it literally does exactly what you just said, content (posts) is duplicated, comment links are eliminated.

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by aldoushuxley001 » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:43 PM UTC

faizshah wrote: post #12

Why does it seem easier to scan the links on the front page of reddit than on HN? Often when I'm looking to upvote a link I just clicked on HN I will scan through all the links but miss the one I'm looking for. Is it the contrast and boldness of the titles that makes reddit better in this regard?

I think it's the background-colour.

Every other link on reddit has a slightly darker background, which helps separate the links. HN doesn't have this, preferring to simply number the links as its way of differentiating

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by reificator » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:44 PM UTC

> Why did you use Go to write this? You know Go does not have generics, right?

This is going straight to my quote archive.

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by faizshah » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:44 PM UTC

jack9 wrote: post #8

unkown-unknowns wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, are you being facetious or did you not catch on to the fact that the comments not being included is what makes it "quiet HN"?

Even after your comment, I do not make that connection. If that was the intent, it fails...e.g, Why not duplicate the site faithfully and just eliminate the comment links? It succeeds in being 'quiet' (less noisy) in design.

I also thought it meant a less noisy design and I thought the lack of comments was part of being less noisy.

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by faitswulff » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:44 PM UTC

unkown-unknowns wrote: post #5

faitswulff wrote: post #4

I wish there was a link to the comments. Oftentimes they're the first (and last) place I go.

Wait, are you being facetious or did you not catch on to the fact that the comments not being included is what makes it "quiet HN"?

Your comment reminds me why "No Feigned Surprise" is a virtue (https://www.recurse.com/manual#no-feigned-surprise). Yes, it is entirely possible to miss the tiny link at the bottom that says "What is this?" and even then still possible to skim or dismiss it thereafter.

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by jessriedel » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:46 PM UTC

faizshah wrote: post #12

Why does it seem easier to scan the links on the front page of reddit than on HN? Often when I'm looking to upvote a link I just clicked on HN I will scan through all the links but miss the one I'm looking for. Is it the contrast and boldness of the titles that makes reddit better in this regard?

Reddit also has thumbnails, which in this use case serve as icons (whose purpose is to be faster to understand at a glance than text).

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by DarkTree » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:48 PM UTC

Yeah I can understand the motivation for creating this. When I first started browsing HN, I couldn't believe how supplemental, civil and noiseless the comments were. However, after several years, I've started to jump straight to the comments, especially when I have a vague clue about what the article is about. That's when I don't feel the incentive to actually read and create my own opinions. I've also started to view HN as more entertainment than education because of the way I consume it, instead of the how I used to believe speeding over comments was informative. I've since accepted that it is entertainment veiled as education. I still learn more here than any other news source I follow.

Re: Quiet Hacker News

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Post by samat » Sun, Sep 17, 2017, 10:51 PM UTC

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