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Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows

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Re: Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows

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I keep thinking that diet, and fitness in general, is a complex thing to keep track of. I'm reminded that the wealthy, who can afford a personal trainer or physician to give advice for a significant proportion of the time would be better able to manage this, and I wonder when it will be that our own personal digital assistants will be able to help more of us do that.

Problem is of course, privacy.. if Ltd create a PDA which monitors you, then it is Ltd who are doing that for their own purposes. If the PDA is owned by the people who use it, that is better.. but thats unlikely to happen I fear.

Re: Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows

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Not too much and not too little, seems to be the way to go. But, given the amount of previous research about harmful effects of fat, it's hard to tell whether this is just an outlier. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if "High-fat diet could kill you, major study shows" has appeared in headlines more than once. "Loosening the restriction on total fat and saturated fat and imposing limits on carbohydrates when high to r…

It's way too easy to binge on carbs and it's really really hard to eat too much fat. I've guzzled 6 packs of beer and eaten entire pizzas in a sitting more times than I care to admit. (Also because I lost count after the first dozen times or so).

Now that I'm on a low-carb high-fat diet, I find myself eating until I'm full, and at that point I simply have too much fat and protein in my stomach for my body to even want any more food, so I stop. Then I wake up the next morning to find yet another half-pound of body fat has mysteriously vanished and my clothes fit better.

Re: Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows

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Not too much and not too little, seems to be the way to go. But, given the amount of previous research about harmful effects of fat, it's hard to tell whether this is just an outlier. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if "High-fat diet could kill you, major study shows" has appeared in headlines more than once. "Loosening the restriction on total fat and saturated fat and imposing limits on carbohydrates when high to r…

> But, given the amount of previous research about harmful effects of fat Dietary fat has been shown to be healthy over and over again. There's nothing controversial about saying dietary fat is good for you; it is established science at this point. I believe what the quote was trying to say about saturated fat is that they feel it is less dangerous than carbohydrates and sugars, and while the UK food industry has bee…

Because people think fat in nutrition = fat in the body. And looking at the amount of low-fat products on the shelves, people just don't care enough to work out the difference themselves.

Re: Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But, given the amount of previous research about harmful effects of fat Dietary fat has been shown to be healthy over and over again. There's nothing controversial about saying dietary fat is good for you; it is established science at this point. I believe what the quote was trying to say about saturated fat is that they feel it is less dangerous than carbohydrates and sugars, and while the UK food industry has bee…

Because people think fat in nutrition = fat in the body. And looking at the amount of low-fat products on the shelves, people just don't care enough to work out the difference themselves.

Not to mention the government and most nutritionists have lied about cholesterol and saturated fat for what, like 40 years now?

https://www.amazon.com/Death-Food-Pyramid-Politics-Interests...

Re: Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows

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post #12

I keep thinking that diet, and fitness in general, is a complex thing to keep track of. I'm reminded that the wealthy, who can afford a personal trainer or physician to give advice for a significant proportion of the time would be better able to manage this, and I wonder when it will be that our own personal digital assistants will be able to help more of us do that. Problem is of course, privacy.. if Ltd create a PD…

the privacy problem is solved by free software and self-hosted/self-contained solutions. of course, there is a potential revenue problem, but there's always hosting, support, and other angles you can take to make monies.

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post #12

I keep thinking that diet, and fitness in general, is a complex thing to keep track of. I'm reminded that the wealthy, who can afford a personal trainer or physician to give advice for a significant proportion of the time would be better able to manage this, and I wonder when it will be that our own personal digital assistants will be able to help more of us do that. Problem is of course, privacy.. if Ltd create a PD…

I keep seeing the argument that only the wealthy can afford a healthy diet. I just don't buy it. At least in western countries, anybody can do it, it's not that hard. Getting the basics right is just a google search away. Buying reasonably healthy food is not that expensive, and preparation doesn't take long. I know that because I prepare my food myself and it doesn't take me more than two or three hours per week.

Oats and nuts, maybe some fruit for breakfast. Lentils, potatoes, or rice; frozen veggies and some protein for lunch. Sandwiches or eggs with some veggies for dinner. It might not be perfect, but it's certainly not terribly unhealthy.

Re: Low-fat diet could kill you, major study shows

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Here's a link to the study (which, by the way, was unnecessarily difficult to find): http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-67...

What a sensationalist and wrong headline. All it says is that "Total fat and saturated and unsaturated fats were not significantly associated with risk of myocardial infarction or cardiovascular disease mortality." So whether you have low or high fat in your diet, you could fill a good portion of that total caloric intake with protein instead of carbohydrates and that would still satisfy the claims that you can mitigate against "Higher carbohydrate intake was associated with an increased risk of total mortality".

They also don't define what "low" means in "low-fat" to define at what threshold would "kill you" (eyes roll). Doctors generally recommend 20-35% already[1] so I'm not sure how any of this is groundbreaking.

[1] https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/reducing-fat-...

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