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As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

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Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

#11
It's almost as if putting huge expansionary pressure on (mostly) locally-minded organizations causes them to fail. Who knew?

A couple of cherry-picked examples don't mean the coding bootcamp industry is going anywhere. IMO, there's no reason to panic until these bootcamps are being advertised alongside x-ray technician jobs during midday reruns of Judge Judy.

Now, the glut of junior devs entering the market - that's something to be a smidge concerned about.

Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

#12
I went to 2 bootcamps The Starter League Web Dev '12 and Mobile Makers for iOS Dev '14. Neither of the bootcamps are still in existence today. I feel fortunate to have gone through them when I did. Post Bootcamp I did independent work for 5 years, Web/Mobile Dev, before joining a startup.

IMO Bootcamps are great, people try and add up the cost and run the numbers, but the experience of growing and struggling through stuff with others, in an in-person environment, was enriching.

If there was a Kotlin Bootcamp in my area I'd be interested in learning more.

Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

#14

Off topic but that guy tilting his head in the back in the header image is the highlight of this article.

Not if image 2 is spelling AJAX as "Ajacks". Can't be sure though.

I really hope that is either:

- Talking about something else

- Being ironic

Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

#15

why is it unsustainable?

Because dozens of bootcamps are churning out tens of thousands of candidates a year. There's only so many entry level positions to fight over, especially if they all have essentially the same skill set (full stack web).

Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

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Current Data Science Student at Galvenize in Phoenix here. I came from a mix of technologies (approximate knowledge, but a master of none) before settling into the data sciences (Python ecosystem). Galvenize has been precisely the challenge I was looking for and so much more. I barely got by the interview process, but picked up a Veteran Scholarship worth half my $16,000 tuition along the way. Quit my job as a Salesf…

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Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if image 2 is spelling AJAX as "Ajacks". Can't be sure though.

I really hope that is either: - Talking about something else - Being ironic

90% of jokes at DBC are programming word play jokes, so...I would not be surprised to learn they are building a storefront that sells single jacks for playing jacks.

Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

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post #5

"But the coding boot-camp field now faces a sobering moment, as two large schools have announced plans to shut down this year — despite backing by major for-profit education companies, Kaplan and the Apollo Education Group, the parent of the University of Phoenix." Not sure "despite" is the right phrasing here. I'm a DBC grad from about three years ago, and I know DBC had various issues, but I do suspect that there w…

I quit the Iron Yard right after Apollo bought them/imvested in them. I have to say, the situation was similar. Reminds me of DHH's semi regular rants about the pitfalls of selling your business... It almost always is a bad move for the product, and is often regretted by the founders, despite a large windfall.

Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

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Off topic but that guy tilting his head in the back in the header image is the highlight of this article.

Not if image 2 is spelling AJAX as "Ajacks". Can't be sure though.

The more progressive boot camps have moved on to Web Sockuts.

Re: As Coding Boot Camps Close, the Field Faces a Reality Check

#20
Sort of off topic, but in the second picture the whiteboard says "Ajacks" (and not ajax, for asynchronous JavaScript and xml). Makes me wonder how fast and loose they were playing with instructors, unless this is just a staged shot, or maybe a joke I didn't get.

Not that you need to know what the acronym stands for (hell, no one I know uses the technique to get xml anymore anyways!), but it is weird to see the details wrong in such a detail-oriented discipline, and wouldn't people wonder where the name came from?

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