Chris Saad was my product manager at Uber. We worked together from when we both started in May 2015 to when I left Uber this past February. Chris is an extraordinary product manager, and I can't wait to see what he does next. :)
Uber’s head of developer product leaves citing Kalanick’s ouster
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#12Chris Saad was my product manager at Uber. We worked together from when we both started in May 2015 to when I left Uber this past February. Chris is an extraordinary product manager, and I can't wait to see what he does next. :)
What does "my product manager" means? You are a PM for a product vs. a person.
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#14recode: can we frame the whole thing as uber clickbait?
cs: yes
recode: ok!
Re: Uber’s head of developer product leaves citing Kalanick’s ouster
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might be time for people to realize that the lived experience of the vast majority of Uber employees does not match the ridiculous charicature that the media portrays. (I am not saying there wasn't harassment or bullying, that Susan's stories aren't true, or that the board and upper management seems like a circus right now.) Source, meyself and my co workers at Uber. Btw, I am an Uber employee, AMA.
It's interesting to me how many people who say the environment is "not toxic" are men in the tech organization who've been there a long time. I've helped 2 women find new work, moving from the chaos of Uber. Both saying variants of "the shit I took there was only offset by the stock's possible valur and the waymo stuff calls that into question." Is the divide between men and women's experience there that intensely di…
Re: Uber’s head of developer product leaves citing Kalanick’s ouster
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's interesting to me how many people who say the environment is "not toxic" are men in the tech organization who've been there a long time. I've helped 2 women find new work, moving from the chaos of Uber. Both saying variants of "the shit I took there was only offset by the stock's possible valur and the waymo stuff calls that into question." Is the divide between men and women's experience there that intensely di…
I'm not related to Uber in anyway, but being a man with a longer tenure in a company shouldn't be a reason to discount someone's opinion (or possibly in your comment's case, hinting that they were the reason for toxicity).
But it's striking what a very reliable classifier the union of 'man?' and 'yearsAtUber >>> (> 4)' is in figuring out who's vocally unhappy about Travis leaving. Perhaps I am simply suffering from availability bias and therefore don't know about all the satisfied and successful women at Uber speaking up that their experience is positive.
Re: Uber’s head of developer product leaves citing Kalanick’s ouster
#17He isn't head of anything. He's a first level product manager that gave himself the title "Head of Developer Product". Recode wrote this last night and TechCrunch just cut and paste it. This is how fake news gets propagated.
If you search on linked in, there are plenty of leads and head ofs that is actually their job title, but they dont manage and not necessarily be the head of something.
Re: Uber’s head of developer product leaves citing Kalanick’s ouster
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might be time for people to realize that the lived experience of the vast majority of Uber employees does not match the ridiculous charicature that the media portrays. (I am not saying there wasn't harassment or bullying, that Susan's stories aren't true, or that the board and upper management seems like a circus right now.) Source, meyself and my co workers at Uber. Btw, I am an Uber employee, AMA.
Thanks AMA #1: Did Kalanick really set up and encourage a bro Culture? Did he respect fellow employees as humans or was just running behind business success?
Travis had a deep empathy for the challenges of building successful products, and would offer tremendous grace and thoughtful advice to his team solving problems in the trenches. When projects went sideways, and we presented numbers that were less than stellar, Travis was both empathetic and optimistic while offering actionable guidance and a path forward.
"Bro culture" is a loaded term and the wrong one to describe the environment Travis cultivated. He had tremendous focus on the problems at hand and pushed his team to operate with a sense of urgency to solve them. If anything I think he cared too much about each individual problem, which propelled his teams forward but sometimes left him too deep in the details of his business rather than focusing on the big picture.
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#19Chris Saad was my product manager at Uber. We worked together from when we both started in May 2015 to when I left Uber this past February. Chris is an extraordinary product manager, and I can't wait to see what he does next. :)
What does "my product manager" means? You are a PM for a product vs. a person.
But for some reason, in my head, that sounds like saying "my family's patriarch" instead of "my father".
Re: Uber’s head of developer product leaves citing Kalanick’s ouster
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might be time for people to realize that the lived experience of the vast majority of Uber employees does not match the ridiculous charicature that the media portrays. (I am not saying there wasn't harassment or bullying, that Susan's stories aren't true, or that the board and upper management seems like a circus right now.) Source, meyself and my co workers at Uber. Btw, I am an Uber employee, AMA.
It's interesting to me how many people who say the environment is "not toxic" are men in the tech organization who've been there a long time. I've helped 2 women find new work, moving from the chaos of Uber. Both saying variants of "the shit I took there was only offset by the stock's possible valur and the waymo stuff calls that into question." Is the divide between men and women's experience there that intensely di…
A lot of us are still here in hope that the folks like Saad, Gandahar and Kalanick who have left are replaced with people with an ounce of emotional intelligence like Frances Frey. Folks who are in a position and mindset to force the structure of the company to grow. Seeing Kalanick apologists like Saad leave is one of the best signs we might finally be ready to do that. It's going to be a long slow slog of 'losing' people like them until we're in a place where we're not actively villains, but I still think the company could do it or I'd be gone.