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Text Messages Between Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski

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Re: Text Messages Between Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski

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Post by mhmiles »

loceng wrote: post #8

"Uber Saw Tesla as a Huge Competitor While Uber followed Google’s cars closely, it was Tesla and Elon Musk that the duo discussed most frequently. 9/14/2016 Levandowski: Tesla crash in January … implies Elon is lying about millions of miles without incident. We should have LDP on Tesla just to catch all the crashes that are going on. 9/22/2016: We’ve got to start calling Elon on his shit. I'm not on social media but…

Musk has said on a few occassions that he can achieve full automony on a Tesla with no LIDAR setup. I think instead they use a front-facing radar and a bunch of cameras. Maybe IR?. Levandowski strongly disagrees and sees LIDAR as critical to reliably mapping the environment. This all came up when that guy drove into the side of a trailer in a Tesla.

Re: Text Messages Between Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski

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loceng wrote: post #8

"Uber Saw Tesla as a Huge Competitor While Uber followed Google’s cars closely, it was Tesla and Elon Musk that the duo discussed most frequently. 9/14/2016 Levandowski: Tesla crash in January … implies Elon is lying about millions of miles without incident. We should have LDP on Tesla just to catch all the crashes that are going on. 9/22/2016: We’ve got to start calling Elon on his shit. I'm not on social media but…

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Re: Text Messages Between Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski

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Post by gruturo »

loceng wrote: post #8

"Uber Saw Tesla as a Huge Competitor While Uber followed Google’s cars closely, it was Tesla and Elon Musk that the duo discussed most frequently. 9/14/2016 Levandowski: Tesla crash in January … implies Elon is lying about millions of miles without incident. We should have LDP on Tesla just to catch all the crashes that are going on. 9/22/2016: We’ve got to start calling Elon on his shit. I'm not on social media but…

Tesla will do self driving without a LIDAR, just cameras (ok, 8 of those), a RADAR and some ultrasonic distance sensors: https://electrek.co/2016/10/20/tesla-new-autopilot-hardware-...

Some people believe this to be impossible for the time being - LIDAR gives you a 3d point cloud (every obstacle, with its distance from you measured), which is amazing (but currently expensive, bulky, fragile, etc) while with cameras it's way harder, and RADAR can't see some materials at all.

Tesla argues that their suite is enough (humans manage with just 2 "cameras", some even 1), but the algorithms to let you safely entrust your life to such a sensor suite are harder (i.e. more far off in the future).

Kalanick + Levandowsky disagree with Musk, and were planning on calling him out on it.

Re: Text Messages Between Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski

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Post by captn3m0 »

mikeevans wrote: post #15

Simply unbelievable how much garbage is on that web page without an ad blocker (I put a box around the actual content that appears without having to scroll): http://i.imgur.com/0S2FIAW.png

Zero text content for me (without having to scroll, and ad-blocked enabled).

JS Disabled: https://imgur.com/a/IAcXb

JS Enabled: https://imgur.com/a/TtSeg

Likely a result of my zoom/font settings, but this is ridiculous.

Re: Text Messages Between Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski

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Post by eridius »

mikeevans wrote: post #15

Simply unbelievable how much garbage is on that web page without an ad blocker (I put a box around the actual content that appears without having to scroll): http://i.imgur.com/0S2FIAW.png

The headline and image are also content, they're just not body text.

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Post by jdavis703 »

yohann305 wrote: post #2

i don't understand how us the public are allowed to read a private conversation. Don't take me wrong i enjoyed reading it, it felt like snooping, but isn't it a blatant privacy violation?

This is why you don't write down anything illegal you plan to do. If you get caught courts can demand you hand over evidence, or it'll be seized by a search warrant, and likely made part of the public record.

Re: Text Messages Between Travis Kalanick and Anthony Levandowski

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Post by TAForObvReasons »

Overtonwindow wrote: post #16

I can't help but shake a feeling that all of this posting of text messages is just trying to shame Levandowski, Kalanick, or both.

Any "leak" is intended to weaken/shame some party. The unknown is whether it's an attack on Levandowski/Otto, Uber, Kalanick, or all of the above.
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