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It seems like there's a lot of legit, even large threads that have been flagged and removed. Even ones that don't seem offensive, they're just related to or covering news on some things that perhaps some people find offensive. Seems crazy that they'd disappear.
I'd be interested in reading the justifications for removal.
When posts are flagged, is there a reason that is provided and is it viewable somewhere? It seems like there's a lot of legit, even large threads that have been flagged and removed. Even ones that don't seem offensive, they're just related to or covering news on some things that perhaps some people find offensive. Seems crazy that they'd disappear. I'd be interested in reading the justifications for removal.
There's a setting called showdead that you can change to see all the flagged posts.
It's the majority of the sites users saying they don't want to keep seeing the same two toxic viewpoints throwing shit at each other.
I'd love to get a discussion going on whether people support or oppose the flagging (and subsequent disappearance) of politically charged topics on HN. While HN is not a politics site, some of these censored topics have been tech-related. I guess it comes down to a value judgement: is it worth discussing tech politics even if it spawns flamewars and heated arguments? I think it's worth it, but this is certainly debat…
It would be a pretty simple affair software wise, those that need it can have their safe space and those that don't can discuss whatever they want without being shouted down.
Seems like the optimal solution to me.
FYI you can view dead/flagged submissions by going to your profile and enabling showdead. I don't know if this is the correct place to criticize HN's moderation policies, it's kinda disheartening to see the list of submissions that were removed. News articles regarding the diversity memo were allowed but submissions linking to the actual memo were removed for some reason. If the actual memo is sexist/bigoted, then pe…
I'd love to get a discussion going on whether people support or oppose the flagging (and subsequent disappearance) of politically charged topics on HN. While HN is not a politics site, some of these censored topics have been tech-related. I guess it comes down to a value judgement: is it worth discussing tech politics even if it spawns flamewars and heated arguments? I think it's worth it, but this is certainly debat…
Flagged because of the stupid -rule breaking- title.
The flagging isn't a rogue algorithm. It's the majority of the sites users saying they don't want to keep seeing the same two toxic viewpoints throwing shit at each other.
I'd love to get a discussion going on whether people support or oppose the flagging (and subsequent disappearance) of politically charged topics on HN. While HN is not a politics site, some of these censored topics have been tech-related. I guess it comes down to a value judgement: is it worth discussing tech politics even if it spawns flamewars and heated arguments? I think it's worth it, but this is certainly debat…
So, I've vouched for it too, mainly because it would be nice to have the option on HN to simply ignore the flags for those who feel they can handle it and don't need to be told by others what they can and can not discuss. It would be a pretty simple affair software wise, those that need it can have their safe space and those that don't can discuss whatever they want without being shouted down. Seems like the optimal…
But if this "ignore flags" version of hackernews were to have any moderation at all to prevent the above, it would basically mean forcing extra work on the moderators of hackernews to cater to a handful of people interested in genuine discussion and a vast army of people interested in using it to troll, harass, and generally be awful to people.
I appreciate that some people feel that the "loss" of some submissions due to automatic flamewar detection algorithms or user flagging is a problem, but I, for one, appreciate that the discussions that remain on the front page (for a long time) have a reasonable guarantee of being high quality.
Relatedly, it may also have an effect on the non-controversial submissions by establishing that flamewars will not remain in high positions for long. (I realize that's a bit of a "broken windows theory".)