Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs • Hacker News Board

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by Benjammer » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 1:56 AM UTC

They looked at tech job listings as a percentage of ALL job listings in cities with a population over 1 million. How does that show a "tech hub"?

I would bet NYC has more total tech jobs (as well as open listings) than a lot of the "tech hubs" on the list.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by ynniv » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 1:56 AM UTC

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen...

I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking:

  Bay Area
  Seattle
  New York
  Washington DC
  Atlanta
  Toronto
  Raleigh
  Austin
  Boston

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by mannykannot » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 1:56 AM UTC

There are some highly technical (and specifically information-techical) jobs in finance that don't seem to be included here. This may also be the case for other areas, as well.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 1:59 AM UTC

Ologn wrote: post #7

Baltimore and Raleigh are tech hubs, and New York is not? In 2000 when the dot-com's went bust, things were not so bad for IT in New York because the other industries were still going along - media, advertising, fashion, and of course, finance. San Francisco has all its eggs in one basket. Plus New York has Stack Overflow, Spotify, Computer Associates, IBM, Seamless, Rockstar Games, Kickstarter and companies like tha…

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Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by frandroid » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 2:01 AM UTC

ynniv wrote: post #12

I get that you work with what you have (in this case, a corpus of job postings), but a ranking that places Baltimore in the top three tech hubs fails the sniff test. CBRE has a better list here (email registration wall): https://www.cbre.com/research-and-reports/Scoring-Tech-Talen... I'm biased in that it places Atlanta unusually high, but overall it is a better, less surprising ranking: Bay Area Seattle New York Was…

I was like, hot damn, cheap housing and good paying jobs, I'm moving to Baltimore!!

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by bhewes » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 2:03 AM UTC

Yep those are all the cities my tech oriented friends either live in or dream of living in.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by k2xl » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 2:03 AM UTC

swampthinker wrote: post #4

Without looking, I'm going to guess (in no particular order): - Cambridge/Boston - DC metro area - Austin - Bay area - Seattle - NYC - Philadelphia - LA or San Diego EDIT: Hm, got most right. I forgot about the Triangle entirely, but I'm surprised Baltimore outpaced Philly.

I was surprised Atlanta wasn't listed

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by bakenator » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 2:05 AM UTC

40acres wrote: post #5

Can anyone speak to.the job market in the DC metro? I've been thinking a lot about moving back to the east coast and DC seems like a decent trade off between cost of living and interesting jobs (compared to my home NYC). What kind of jobs are in DC, what's the salary range like?

The majority of jobs in DC metro are government contracting as you would imagine. That is not to say there are not interesting opportunities available. A few startups and many small contracting shops filling niche spots for the Gov.

IMO the cost of living in not good in DC metro. Very high home prices, only below SF, Boston, NYC. Lower salaries than SF/NYC across the board. Upper middle class in DC requires 200k income, many families here with two 100k earning parents.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by lotsofpulp » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 2:08 AM UTC

k2xl wrote: post #17

swampthinker wrote: post #4

Without looking, I'm going to guess (in no particular order): - Cambridge/Boston - DC metro area - Austin - Bay area - Seattle - NYC - Philadelphia - LA or San Diego EDIT: Hm, got most right. I forgot about the Triangle entirely, but I'm surprised Baltimore outpaced Philly.

I was surprised Atlanta wasn't listed

I was surprised NYC wasn't listed.

Re: Higher-paid, faster-growing tech jobs are concentrating in 8 US hubs

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Post by randcraw » Fri, Jul 28, 2017, 2:09 AM UTC

Ologn wrote: post #7

Baltimore and Raleigh are tech hubs, and New York is not? In 2000 when the dot-com's went bust, things were not so bad for IT in New York because the other industries were still going along - media, advertising, fashion, and of course, finance. San Francisco has all its eggs in one basket. Plus New York has Stack Overflow, Spotify, Computer Associates, IBM, Seamless, Rockstar Games, Kickstarter and companies like tha…

The problem with this article is its focus on the fraction of a city's total jobs that are high tech, not the number of high tech jobs.

Raleigh's total market is small compared to NYC's, of course (~2 million in 2013). Even then I can't believe a high fraction of work in the Research Triangle area is tech related. Aside from the 3 universities, it just doesn't have many significant tech employers these days. It's been decades since anyone mentioned tech business in RTP in the same breath as other hubs in the vicinity like DC, Charlotte, Atlanta, or Houston.