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Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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TL;DR: it's a device that gathers metrics from the car sensors. The product is aimed at hackers and car enthusiasts. You want to know your top speed, 0 - 60 etc? This might be the device for you. Afaik there's already products out there that do the same thing. This could be at a lower price point though.

ODB2 Bluetooth readers for Smartphones can be had for $10 [1]. I guess the hard part is writing the software that logs all the data. Currently most Android apps simply display the data and don't log it. The logging/software aspect of this is certainly where the value is added.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_9?url=search-alias...

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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This....doesn't appear to be that useful?

Or even new. It's an OBDII bridge.. except maybe with a software mindset instead of an automobile one, thus some wifi chip (looks like an ESP32 on the picture) and a cute form factor. I ... don't get it.

I thought hotz finally found his spot and excepted some small nuc like board + a set of cam and sensors ..

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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post #5

TL;DR: it's a device that gathers metrics from the car sensors. The product is aimed at hackers and car enthusiasts. You want to know your top speed, 0 - 60 etc? This might be the device for you. Afaik there's already products out there that do the same thing. This could be at a lower price point though.

You can find similar products that work over bluetooth for under $10 on Amazon. I use an old smartphone on a mount to show all of the same information using a third-party app - no need for an $88 proprietary dongle. There doesn't seem to be anything new about this product other than marketing and a high price tag. I'd love for that to not be the case, however. Maybe I'm missing some features of it.

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Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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I experimented with OBD-II devices for a while, paired with a phone app like Torque, and I found that the lower-level information (e.g. data about any particular air sensor) just wasn't interesting or useful to me. And other useful info (e.g. speed) I can get from my dash or other sources.

Where these devices come in extremely handy, however, is by allowing you to look up the opaque fault codes that your car's computer produces when something goes wrong.

For $10-$20 off eBay or similar online stores, you can get a device that will tell you, for instance, when you have a cylinder misfire without having to go to a mechanic. (You may have to go to a mechanic to get it fixed, but at least you'll have a rough idea what needs fixing.)

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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2016: Comma.ai will compete with Tesla, Google, Mobileye[1] 2017: Comma.ai will compete with ScanGauge hm. ( http://www.businessinsider.com/george-hotz-techcrunch-disrup... )

he's answering in the comments, he says typical OBD interfaces are slow and fragile, which I surely believe. Is it me or is his ego made of titanium ? the reporter quotes "we're 3, waymo, tesla and us" .. yet he's building a cuter, faster obdII bridge I don't get it.

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Hotz is quoted as saying in the article, "there are only three real competitors: Waymo, Tesla and us." That's total bullshit. There are so many companies seriously working on autonomous vehicles, such as GM Cruise, Auroa Innovation, Drive.ai, Zoox, Nuro.ai, nuTonomy, Varden Labs, AImotive, Ford, and Nvidia Edit, because George is on here: George, I want to like you, because I think your tech is really good (the stree…

The dude is surfing on ignorants wow effect and past iphone jailbreak. Whatever he says, journalists believe. #fakeoldz

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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I experimented with OBD-II devices for a while, paired with a phone app like Torque, and I found that the lower-level information (e.g. data about any particular air sensor) just wasn't interesting or useful to me. And other useful info (e.g. speed) I can get from my dash or other sources. Where these devices come in extremely handy, however, is by allowing you to look up the opaque fault codes that your car's comput…

Some mechanics charge you $120 literally just to plug in their OBD2 adapter and read the code, so yeah, even if it saves you one diagnostic fee, it's a bargain.

Note that Hotz is claiming his readers will do a lot more than the conventional ones you've seen before. Whether or not that's true remains to be seen.

Re: Comma.ai launches an $88 universal car interface called Panda

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Given the absurd insecurity of the OBD II CAN interface on all modern vehicles, it seems insane to install anything there with a wireless interface on it.

aren't they read only sensors anyway ? no outside agent can fiddle with your car through OBD2 .. I hope so
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