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Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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Playing the world's saddest song on the world's smallest violin there Denise Garcia. How about maybe updating your curriculum for the 3rd millennium. Nah, that would be to much work, complaining in wired is much more productive.

The best part is that people in the school administration might do something like blacklisting Wolfram Alpha on computers in the school library and feel like they've dealt successfully with the problem.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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You may cheat all you want on your homework, but if calculus tests are like they were when I was in college, taking your exam with no notes or calculator, if you've only cut and pasted from Wolfram Alpha all semester is going to lead you to getting an F in the course.

This - I think part of the issue is to stop homework from becoming busywork for grades. If everyone has the understanding that this is supposed to nail down and self-test understanding of material taught in class, then there's no reason students should "cheat". To this end, I like the approach of mentioning repeatedly that homeworks are for the students' own good, then give a test early on to make students quickly understand they'll do badly without practice, and then announce after the test that you'll drop the scores, but just DO YOUR DAMN HOMEWORK! :-)

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

#14

You may cheat all you want on your homework, but if calculus tests are like they were when I was in college, taking your exam with no notes or calculator, if you've only cut and pasted from Wolfram Alpha all semester is going to lead you to getting an F in the course.

Can confirm.

Source: did this, got a C in freshman calc.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

#15

It is not cheating. It is leveling the playing field. Some students will inevitably have access to tutors or parents who can give them the full answer. With wolfram|Alpha all students have access to this. What this really show is that homework isn't the best tool for gauging student prowess.

Homework's largely supposed to be about reinforcing the lesson for math courses. For other courses it's largely about reading which shouldn't be done in class. Tests/essays are for assessment.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

#16

You may cheat all you want on your homework, but if calculus tests are like they were when I was in college, taking your exam with no notes or calculator, if you've only cut and pasted from Wolfram Alpha all semester is going to lead you to getting an F in the course.

Grumble grumble back in my day grumble grumble

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

#17
Am I the only one here that would program their TI-83 in high school to run equations for me so I didn't have to solve them by hand?

I wasn't even that dev-savvy (and still am not), but it was super easy and was a huge time-saver on timed tests.

I obviously had to learn the concept in order to program the equation, but once I did - why should I have to go through everything manually every single time?

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

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It is not cheating. It is leveling the playing field. Some students will inevitably have access to tutors or parents who can give them the full answer. With wolfram|Alpha all students have access to this. What this really show is that homework isn't the best tool for gauging student prowess.

Homework's largely supposed to be about reinforcing the lesson for math courses. For other courses it's largely about reading which shouldn't be done in class. Tests/essays are for assessment.

Other countries don't put as much emphasis on hw and seem to do just fine. In some of them hw isn't even graded, it's for you to practice. My high school for example gave out a book with the problem solutions. For some of them, it was only the final result, for some of them it was the whole process. Hw didn't affect your grade at all and it was up to you to decide if you want to do the hw or not.

The amount of hw students get in the us is astounding. It's not always productive either (more often that not it's not). And it seems like there's no pushback against it.

Re: Wolfram Alpha Is Making It Extremely Easy for Students to Cheat

#20

Am I the only one here that would program their TI-83 in high school to run equations for me so I didn't have to solve them by hand? I wasn't even that dev-savvy (and still am not), but it was super easy and was a huge time-saver on timed tests. I obviously had to learn the concept in order to program the equation, but once I did - why should I have to go through everything manually every single time?

We had the calculators force reset before every test.
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