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China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Newbie question but what is China's rationale for their internet censorship and firewall? What are they afraid of?

They care about social harmony. Don't want to make people upset. That's the official version. It's most probably about rejecting the influences from the West, preservation of Chinese culture. Recently there's also quite a huge war on influence of Korean culture.

Just as Fox News won't tell the truth, and hold on to their line even in the face of evidence, so do the Chinese. Most of us are guilty of not trying to be inclusive enough with other people and prefer to live in our little bubble. There is always a cost for that - just look at what happened in 2016-17.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Reuters is blocked in China. China has been "closing" for 5 years now. According to "china watchers", this is expected to continue. Blame Xi.

I've been a long time reader of reuters. I still use it sometimes. It certainly used to be more neutral and balanced in the past. Now, sadly I find it often publishes articles propagating anti-chinese sentiments. Therefore I am not too surprised by the chinese authority's decision. Incidentally, I can recommend having a look also at xinhua and china daily from time to time. It's quite refreshing to leave the western propaganda bubble and take a glimpse at the world from "the other side". Let a hundred flowers bloom ;-)

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh? Don't think socialism is to blame here. Sweden, as an example, is a very socialist country and also with a high degree of freedom to look at whatever you want (almost).

Sweden isn't socialist at all, it's a social democracy. Social democracies do not aim at making means of production a common good.

I think the confusion is that socialism is used to refer both the economic policies as well as political policies, which are actually orthogonal to each other..

In the case of China it is socialism in political policies but very capitalist in economic policies.

Sweden is socialism in the economic sense but politically it values freedom much more than China , you will see this if you notice the differences in tax rates in Sweden vs China.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Probably not Xi's problem but China will lag economically and creatively because of this restriction. It's just ceding the entertainment initiative to other creators, outside of China. Even if they ban all creative content from outside China, don't they know that a terabyte HDD can hold enough movies to last for a year, and be copied easily?

Ha! CCP don't give any shit about creativity.

They want to be in control, including controlling creativity.

In fact, if you're a Chinese people like me, you probably learned CCP's "Three Represents" when you in mid school. Which is:

- "Represents advanced social productive forces" stands for economic production

- "Represents the progressive course of China's advanced culture" stands for cultural development

- "Represents the fundamental interests of the majority" stands for political consensus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Represents

What that said is:

- We (CCP) decide what is important to this country

- We decide what you can do when you're boring

- We decide what you can have (and your needs)

So, I won't be surprised one day we had that Sea Ban thing and what's followed all over again.

FYI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haijin

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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Newbie question but what is China's rationale for their internet censorship and firewall? What are they afraid of?

They've known for ages that the biggest threat to China is not some foreign enemy but China itself. This also applies to the US btw, we just haven't fully realized it yet.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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post #9

Probably not Xi's problem but China will lag economically and creatively because of this restriction. It's just ceding the entertainment initiative to other creators, outside of China. Even if they ban all creative content from outside China, don't they know that a terabyte HDD can hold enough movies to last for a year, and be copied easily?

Lag economically? For censoring overtly gay content homemade by some people trying get money from advertising or just searching for attention on social media?

You can have an issue with this attacking some personal freedoms, but thinking that some people showing their gay/rich/silly/whatever lifestyle in order to get some likes in FB or some ad money in Youtube affects the economy is just disingenuous.

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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post #15
post #9

Probably not Xi's problem but China will lag economically and creatively because of this restriction. It's just ceding the entertainment initiative to other creators, outside of China. Even if they ban all creative content from outside China, don't they know that a terabyte HDD can hold enough movies to last for a year, and be copied easily?

Ha! CCP don't give any shit about creativity . They want to be in control, including controlling creativity. In fact, if you're a Chinese people like me, you probably learned CCP's "Three Represents" when you in mid school. Which is: - "Represents advanced social productive forces" stands for economic production - "Represents the progressive course of China's advanced culture" stands for cultural development - "Repre…

Wow, I didn't realize that Japan had mimicked this sea ban. I only knew about the Japanese version.

But how could such a move be reconciled with China's recent expansion into global politics?

Re: China's bloggers, filmmakers feel chill of internet crackdown

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post #9

Probably not Xi's problem but China will lag economically and creatively because of this restriction. It's just ceding the entertainment initiative to other creators, outside of China. Even if they ban all creative content from outside China, don't they know that a terabyte HDD can hold enough movies to last for a year, and be copied easily?

In a way it has also brought creativity for many things. Baidu and others can't exist without this. And I think it is very wrong to say that there is no creativity in copying.
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