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What to Blame for Your Stomach Bug? Not Always the Last Thing You Ate

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Re: What to Blame for Your Stomach Bug? Not Always the Last Thing You Ate

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Since last August, when I had a severe GERD issue that took six months to go away, I keep a very detailed daily journal of everything I eat, the time I eat it and any kind of symptoms it might be causing me even hours later. It's the best way, and probably the only one, to isolate foods that make my stomach upset. Now I can correlate symptoms with foods/hours and draw conclusions based on hard data. It has helped me a lot to fight GERD, even more than the drugs my gastroenterologist prescribed. So I guess I've hacked my own health in a way.

Re: What to Blame for Your Stomach Bug? Not Always the Last Thing You Ate

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And if your goal is to be productive as a programmer: any faint headache will make you feel as if you are not motivated. These barely noticeable headaches may come from bad water, bad food, no water, no food, you stayed in wind, you are about to get sick, you stayed in hot sun, you didn't rest well (too cold, too hot, not enough sleep) and so on.

This probably explains why I'm often tempted to binge eat instead of working.

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As a restauranteur, I (very occasionally!) get calls from people accusing us of making them ill, threatening bad reviews and demanding vouchers or refunds. The majority of the time it's someone who tries the same scam on every restaurant. Fortunately, around here at least, independent restaurant owners and managers keep in contact with each other and keep a track of these things. I did hear about one scammer recently…

From a customer's perspective, it's really hard to prove, so I have rarely done anything when I have gotten ill. Most of the cases it's been rather mild symptoms and I have suspected the canteen at work for serving leftovers that probably hadn't been chilled fast enough. I've simply stopped eating things that I recognize from the past... I have also gotten sick from moules marinières where I suspect that they used th…

I've heard bad things about this fish, but I've had it raw as sushi a few times and nothing bad has happened.

Re: What to Blame for Your Stomach Bug? Not Always the Last Thing You Ate

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As a restauranteur, I (very occasionally!) get calls from people accusing us of making them ill, threatening bad reviews and demanding vouchers or refunds. The majority of the time it's someone who tries the same scam on every restaurant. Fortunately, around here at least, independent restaurant owners and managers keep in contact with each other and keep a track of these things. I did hear about one scammer recently…

It's hard to prove. Meal is gone. Should I save my throw up? I have had 18 gauge wire in my buritto, but figured it was just an accident. I have worked in restaurants. Some are filthy. Some workers could care less about food handling, especially the restaurants that hire the cheapest help, which is most. It's pretty easy to pass a health inspection. Just keep the meat on the bottom shelf, and keep the coolers at the…

>>>And it's increasingly expensive

Especially when you have a family, one night out is equivalent to a weeks worth of groceries. Cooking at home is the easiest way to stretch your money, if you can find the time.

Re: What to Blame for Your Stomach Bug? Not Always the Last Thing You Ate

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Since last August, when I had a severe GERD issue that took six months to go away, I keep a very detailed daily journal of everything I eat, the time I eat it and any kind of symptoms it might be causing me even hours later. It's the best way, and probably the only one, to isolate foods that make my stomach upset. Now I can correlate symptoms with foods/hours and draw conclusions based on hard data. It has helped me…

Hey, how do you track your meals?

I'm working on an app (Bitesnap) to help people keep track of their diet. At some point we'd like to add more features to help users figure out what's causing their dietary issues.

Re: What to Blame for Your Stomach Bug? Not Always the Last Thing You Ate

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As a restauranteur, I (very occasionally!) get calls from people accusing us of making them ill, threatening bad reviews and demanding vouchers or refunds. The majority of the time it's someone who tries the same scam on every restaurant. Fortunately, around here at least, independent restaurant owners and managers keep in contact with each other and keep a track of these things. I did hear about one scammer recently…

During my younger years I spent a summer working in a hotel with restaurant, doing hard manual labour for a pittance. What surprised me was what went on in the en-suite toilets of the hotel rooms. The guests had eaten very expensive meals during the previous evening and on the 'Bristol poo scale' I would say that things had usually got to the diarrhoea end of the chart.

The culprit? Nouvelle Cuisine.

Absolutely no corners were cut in the kitchen, there were no bad practices whatsoever. Everyone took pride in their work and there were never any problems with inspections from the authorities or reviewers. The kitchen and the restaurant were horror story free. Yet the toilets told their own story.

We did get one bad review from a guest that had to be 'torn out of the book', this was actually a very good review in that the guest had taken time to look at the food served from a nutrition point of view. Turns out that Nouvelle Cuisine is not all it is cracked up to be, it might look pretty on TV but in reality it is not what you want to be eating. Too much of the food was highly processed.

For instance, take the humble pea. Normal people eat peas that come out of the freezer to be boiled/steamed and then served. However, in Nouvelle Cuisine (at this anecdotal hotel) were 'fresh', in their pods. The peas would be shelled, then the outer skin of each pea would be removed. Then the peas would be shoved through some sieve to make some type of mush. This would go on hours before tea-time, for some lackey in the kitchen it was a major chore taking hours to do. I never was one to partake in these silly foods but I imagine those peas sat around all day - albeit covered with clingfilm and in the refrigerator - to then be heated/served somehow with the silly and expensive luxury dead animal stuff.

I would be surprised if it was these glorified mushy peas that resulted in the in-toilet explosions, however, strange food upsets people's guts if they are not used to strange food.

The clientele did not get absolutely trolleyed, there was never any signs of rooms trashed by partying and I was surprised people didn't make mention of gut problems.

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Since last August, when I had a severe GERD issue that took six months to go away, I keep a very detailed daily journal of everything I eat, the time I eat it and any kind of symptoms it might be causing me even hours later. It's the best way, and probably the only one, to isolate foods that make my stomach upset. Now I can correlate symptoms with foods/hours and draw conclusions based on hard data. It has helped me…

Hey, how do you track your meals? I'm working on an app (Bitesnap) to help people keep track of their diet. At some point we'd like to add more features to help users figure out what's causing their dietary issues.

I'm using a simple Excel worksheet to record everything and once a month I move the data to an SQL Server table for easier correlations.

BTW, make sure you also give the ability to record beverages because in many cases they're the root of stomach problems. And you could add some social functionality so users could correlate with others who have similar dietary habits.

Re: What to Blame for Your Stomach Bug? Not Always the Last Thing You Ate

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a customer's perspective, it's really hard to prove, so I have rarely done anything when I have gotten ill. Most of the cases it's been rather mild symptoms and I have suspected the canteen at work for serving leftovers that probably hadn't been chilled fast enough. I've simply stopped eating things that I recognize from the past... I have also gotten sick from moules marinières where I suspect that they used th…

There is no correct way to cook escolar aka butterfish aka olestrafish. It's banned for sale in some places, should be banned everywhere.

Theoretically, you can grill it, and hope that most wax esters will melt, but I wouldn't want to bet my underpants on that again.

I'm told that it also develops histamines in a much higher rate than other fish so there is also a risk for a severe reaction in general.

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As a restauranteur, I (very occasionally!) get calls from people accusing us of making them ill, threatening bad reviews and demanding vouchers or refunds. The majority of the time it's someone who tries the same scam on every restaurant. Fortunately, around here at least, independent restaurant owners and managers keep in contact with each other and keep a track of these things. I did hear about one scammer recently…

From a customer's perspective, it's really hard to prove, so I have rarely done anything when I have gotten ill. Most of the cases it's been rather mild symptoms and I have suspected the canteen at work for serving leftovers that probably hadn't been chilled fast enough. I've simply stopped eating things that I recognize from the past... I have also gotten sick from moules marinières where I suspect that they used th…

Isolated cases of food poisoning are not common. If food at a restaurant is contaminated most likely multiple people will get ill.

The question is: will people report it to health authorities so that a pattern can be discerned?

Re: What to Blame for Your Stomach Bug? Not Always the Last Thing You Ate

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It surprises me that the article doesn't mention the idea that intentional maintainence and nourishment of ones own intestinal flora is one way to help defend against unpleasant intestinal events.

Because it's still unproven. And your friendly intestinal flora is gonna get it's asses kicked if a load of salmonella or e-coli comes a-callin.
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