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US denies visas to Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team

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Re: US denies visas to Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team

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Post by krapp »

3131s wrote: post #9

So this gets unflagged, but it's still completely gone from the front page even though it has a very good upvotes / time ratio. I really dislike that about HN. This is clearly an important discussion.

Have you read this thread? There is no important discussion going on here, only lazy barbs about the US military and Republican party which, while true, are neither intellectually interesting nor particularly germane to the posted article.

If there were something worth saving here, I'd agree that the downvoting and flagging were a problem, but in this case it's just garbage and it gets what it deserves.

Re: US denies visas to Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team

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Post by Steko »

krapp wrote: post #11
3131s wrote: post #9

So this gets unflagged, but it's still completely gone from the front page even though it has a very good upvotes / time ratio. I really dislike that about HN. This is clearly an important discussion.

Have you read this thread? There is no important discussion going on here, only lazy barbs about the US military and Republican party which, while true, are neither intellectually interesting nor particularly germane to the posted article. If there were something worth saving here, I'd agree that the downvoting and flagging were a problem, but in this case it's just garbage and it gets what it deserves.

There's separate flagging for comments and articles though, you seem to have those confused. Should we flag front page articles every time the first two comments are terrible?

Re: US denies visas to Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team

#13

Post by krapp »

Steko wrote: post #12
krapp wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read this thread? There is no important discussion going on here, only lazy barbs about the US military and Republican party which, while true, are neither intellectually interesting nor particularly germane to the posted article. If there were something worth saving here, I'd agree that the downvoting and flagging were a problem, but in this case it's just garbage and it gets what it deserves.

There's separate flagging for comments and articles though, you seem to have those confused. Should we flag front page articles every time the first two comments are terrible?

The article seems close enough to being mainstream political news to be flag-worthy to me.

I'd agree that an article shouldn't be flagged because of the comments alone, but either way it's going to vanish from the front page quickly considering how heavily HN weighs downvoting and flagging.

Re: US denies visas to Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team

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Post by DrScump »

3131s wrote: post #9

So this gets unflagged, but it's still completely gone from the front page even though it has a very good upvotes / time ratio. I really dislike that about HN. This is clearly an important discussion.

Its previous postings remain up. Perhaps this was just flagged as a dupe.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14674734

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14673603

Re: US denies visas to Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team

#17

Post by cyphunk »

krapp wrote: post #13
Steko wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's separate flagging for comments and articles though, you seem to have those confused. Should we flag front page articles every time the first two comments are terrible?

The article seems close enough to being mainstream political news to be flag-worthy to me. I'd agree that an article shouldn't be flagged because of the comments alone, but either way it's going to vanish from the front page quickly considering how heavily HN weighs downvoting and flagging.

So anything mainstream gets flagged, even if it relates to people in the field of science? Srsly hn, flagging != patriotism

Re: US denies visas to Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team

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Post by cyphunk »

3131s wrote: post #9

So this gets unflagged, but it's still completely gone from the front page even though it has a very good upvotes / time ratio. I really dislike that about HN. This is clearly an important discussion.

don't use vanilla hn. use a proxy like hckrnews.com instead. they still show flagged posts

Re: US denies visas to Afghanistan’s all-girl robotics team

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Post by krapp »

cyphunk wrote: post #17
krapp wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article seems close enough to being mainstream political news to be flag-worthy to me. I'd agree that an article shouldn't be flagged because of the comments alone, but either way it's going to vanish from the front page quickly considering how heavily HN weighs downvoting and flagging.

So anything mainstream gets flagged, even if it relates to people in the field of science? Srsly hn, flagging != patriotism

Anything mainstream should get flagged unless it presents some "new and interesting phenomenon," or satisfies some intellectual curiosity. You could replace the robotics in this story with anything else and it wouldn't change it at all, so it's really just three brief paragraphs a subject which has already been covered. I can see why people would flag it.

If you want the topic of America's visa policy as it relates to science to be discussed in depth, then someone can post a better article with substantive content. Most people are only going to read the title and vent their spleens anyway, so the bar has to be set higher for articles which touch on certain topics.

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